(July 17, 2013 at 12:26 am)Consilius Wrote: If the joinage of bolt and metal fragment is not done properly, we have a breakable joint.
So that means the joint can be breakable even though it is completely composed of unbreakable material? How interesting.
(July 17, 2013 at 12:26 am)Consilius Wrote: Sodium and chlorine don't retain their attributes (e.g. being poisonous) because they have chemically bonded into something else. They come together to form one thing, whereas the universe has caused the formation of many things, all which retain their original attributes.
Since you are just repeating yourself, I will as well. Sodium and Chlorine atoms, which make up the salt, do retain their attributes. And yet, that attribute disappears in the whole.
(July 17, 2013 at 12:26 am)Consilius Wrote: Light is a part in the case that the water appears blue. The whole reatains attributes shared by the parts, and if it doesn't, there is a part that no one has taken into account yet.
If light was the reason for it, then the parts would appear blue under the same light. Clearly, that is not the answer. Try again.
(July 17, 2013 at 12:26 am)Consilius Wrote: Air and atom are only invisible under certain conditions. If there is any possible way they can be seen (e.g. by an incredibly small organism), they are not inherently invisible, unlike logic or a concept, which cannot be seen under any circumstances.
If we are talking about hypotheticals then I hypothesize an animal that can see concepts. On the other hand, the very same conditions under which the atoms are invisible, the whole made of it becomes visible.
Stop dancing around the issue. Stop trying to rationalize your way out of it. All the parts may have attributes that are absent from the whole. The whole may have attributes nowhere to be found in any of the parts. All your feeble attempts to explain exactly how such emergence or disappearance can be explained won't change that simple fact.