(July 17, 2013 at 4:11 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: No the bible is evidence. The claims are meaningless without faith. Foolish and folly.
Evidence in the exact same way that the Koran, The Vedas, Gurū Granth Sāhib, Avestan are evidence for the truth of Islam, Hinduism, Sikhism, Zoroastrianism, right?
Faith is not a virtue, it is gullibility.
1.5 billion Muslims and 1.1 billion Hindus have faith. According to you, they have faith in the 'wrong' god. According to them, you do.
And none of you can support your claims with anything other than fallacious arguments and faith.
Quote:You are required to consider the evidence honestly. Acting upon that information is you embracing the assumption of God.
I pride myself on the ability to consider all evidence honestly. As soon as I am presented with some, I will evaluate it honestly.
Quote:Like I said, God can't be provable. Of course the proofs fail.
I am not looking for proof. Just compelling evidence and reasoned argument.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
