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Determinism Is Self Defeating

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RE: Determinism Is Self Defeating

July 18, 2013 at 11:03 am

(July 17, 2013 at 11:42 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Basically, you are stating determinism as a brute fact, aka begging the question, since this thread is ABOUT whether determinism is true.

Evolution by common descent isn't a direct observation either, but it is far and away the best explanation of the total sum of all relevant observations concerning the theory of evolution.

Quarks aren't directly observed, but it is far and away the best explanation of the Standard model in regard to hadrons and mesons.

Quantum states are vectors in a Hilbert Space isn't a direct observation, but it is far and away the best hypothesis on which Quantum Mechanics is founded on.

You need to brush up on what is a hypothesis, a theory, and supporting evidence.

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Determinism Is Self Defeating - by Koolay - July 1, 2013 at 7:30 pm

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