Try God...

[Esquilax]

Nothing is "absolute" except: God, death, taxes; and NOT getting a message across to you guys!

Why not try transmitting a message with some actual content? It might help; so far your message has just been varying shades of "I'm right!" over and over.

What do you need for validation? Would life itself be enough? Its enough for me!

Life is proof of life. Nothing else entails.

All I get is the million different shades of reasoning from atheists. It's interesting when presented with any kink in the atheist armor the pat answer is..."well we all have different views on atheism." That sounds more like a cop-out. Or agnostic reasoning.

And it's not the same with christians? I can't go out and find a million different interpretations of the bible, the religion, everything? The difference is that when presented with a difference of opinion, the atheist is honest and just accepts that we won't all agree on everything. You guys so often just dismiss any other viewpoints, assert that yours is right, and... that's it.

Don't pretend like your side is so unified, dude.

So, I'm still held to some standard of [exact science] and reasoning for my experiences about God. But, you and/or others get to waffle around the place!

If you want to prove something to be an objective fact... yeah, you will be held accountable to proving that it exists. Sorry, that's just the way claims work. Now, without any form of example it's hard to really respond to this, but since atheism isn't making a truth claim, only a belief one, then we aren't required to provide proof. Unless you want us to prove that we don't believe in a god?

Meanwhile, you're claiming that god does exist, and that you know it. Not just that you believe it. Claims to knowledge require evidence: if you can't show it, you don't know it, to quote Aronra.

I will continue to say that some things about God and religion are self-evident. Some are "spiritual reasoning" in the process of moving toward God.

And you will continue to be wrong.

But you wouldn't have any clue about spiritual reasoning. You wouldn't know where to begin. So ridicule is the order of the day.

Good. "Spiritual reasoning" is just a nicer way of saying "unsubstantiated, loudly asserted nothings."

Also note that I didn't once resort to ridicule, I just asked what makes you so sure of your position.

It always comes to this around here. Because this isn't about "finding" God. It's about tearing Him down... using whatever method is handy.

Perhaps your bible writers should have constructed a better fictional canon for their main character. As it stands, the whole thing is riddled with inconsistencies.

Better yet, perhaps you apologists could construct some decent arguments. Pointing out the inconsistencies in the shit you spout isn't the same as an unprovoked attack.

I keep thinking the religious fundamentalists are correct. Just throw scripture at you. And hit you with fire and brimstone! Why do I try to reason a path to God using simple terms, and personal example. It's just not worth the efforts. Its really a slighting of God, and His divine power. And my personal witnessing only goes to waste.

Once again, personal experience isn't evidence.

There is only one way to God. Jesus Christ! IF you ..."seek, you will find. Ask, and it will be given to you."

Read: "If you just bought into this stuff, you would buy into this stuff!"

How this for an "absolute"? In earnest sincerity "ask"! Guaranteed you will get an answer! But alas, you won't! You would rather ask how I can guarantee that you will?

You act like there's never been a religious deconvert. What would you say to all the devout religious followers that have become atheists? All the members of the Clergy Project, for example?