Determinism Is Self Defeating

[little_monkey]

So far, I have 500 years of scientific investigation saying, there's no evidence of the immaterialism, or a spiritual world, or magic, and determinism is a pretty good foundation for explaining the universe.

No evidence except the existence of mind, you mean, and the experience of free will.

Scientists are working hard now to show that these are both deterministic "byproducts" of the brain-- which to me is a strange idea, but hey, strange happens. The problem is that while you can do observational science on the brain, you can't do it on the mind-- so the whole process is frought with philosophical issues.

Seriously, though. If scientists CAN show some kind of field or something that can be directly observed or manipulated (e.g. by injecting a pink unicorn into my thoughts from a mechanism external to my own brain), I will be highly impressed and well on my way to being convinced.

I'm quite convinced that one day we will show that the brain is the hardware and mind is the software. By twinkling the hardware at spot X, you will have no choice but to think Y.