RE: Childhood indoctrination
July 28, 2013 at 11:48 am
(This post was last modified: July 28, 2013 at 12:11 pm by Forbinator.)
Here is a very well referenced article about the environmental damage done by animal agriculture: http://terrastendo.net/2013/07/26/do-the...many-cows/
Basically, the people who called me an environmental vandal for using synthetic fibres instead of leather/wool/fur can jump in the lake. Also, as we move towards cleaner energy sources (and we will have to) that particular argument will diminish further.
Vitamin B12 is produced by bacteria, and not by animals. Taking the supplement is actually a much cheaper and more efficient way of obtaining it than by consuming Salmonella-ridden meat/dairy/eggs, since we live in a clean environment with a sanitised water supply.
Animal testing for human medicine is scientific fraud, and involves some of the worst abuse imaginable. The people who profit from it try to justify it ethically by saying that the animals are different from us, and then try to justify it scientifically by saying that the animals are the same as us. There is no logically consistent way to justify animal testing without subscribing to that contradiction.
Basically, the people who called me an environmental vandal for using synthetic fibres instead of leather/wool/fur can jump in the lake. Also, as we move towards cleaner energy sources (and we will have to) that particular argument will diminish further.
(July 1, 2013 at 7:36 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: I think I would rather get my vitamins and minerals from my food than the pseudo-supplements put forth by the various pharmacological companies thank you...The animals who are enslaved, exploited, mutilated and slaughtered might have a different opinion if they could talk. In any case, the companies that manufacture vitamins are entirely distinct from big pharma, so your comment is absurd. Vitamins are not drugs. Drugs target specific receptors in the body, whereas vitamins act as cofactors for enzymes in your body. Drugs have side effects and carry dangers of overdosing, but vitamin B12 has no such issues. We shit out the excess no matter how much we ingest.
Vitamin B12 is produced by bacteria, and not by animals. Taking the supplement is actually a much cheaper and more efficient way of obtaining it than by consuming Salmonella-ridden meat/dairy/eggs, since we live in a clean environment with a sanitised water supply.
(June 16, 2013 at 6:14 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: animals being used for scientific research gets a big plus from me. I'd be dead without it.Here is a link explaining the fallacy you have committed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc
Animal testing for human medicine is scientific fraud, and involves some of the worst abuse imaginable. The people who profit from it try to justify it ethically by saying that the animals are different from us, and then try to justify it scientifically by saying that the animals are the same as us. There is no logically consistent way to justify animal testing without subscribing to that contradiction.