Unconventional Religion

[genkaus]

Hey, we've arrived at direct contradiction!
Which of these cases of self-sacrifice is irrational? (We are using 'irrational' to mean 'bad', 'stupid', 'should never be done'.) Self-sacrifice is largely irrational in another sense. And I don't mind.

First of all - no we are not using 'irrational' to mean 'bad', 'stupid' or 'should never be done'. We are using it to mean what it does mean, i.e. without use of reason.

Secondly, unlike you, I don't make moral or rational judgment without any regard to the context. So no, I am not going to had out blanket judgments of 'bad', 'stupid', 'should never be done' or 'irrational' without a context being specified.

Soldiers dying for their country.

In a lot of cases - yes, it is irrational.

Parents struggling for their children.

In a lot of cases where it bears resemblance to self-sacrifice - yes, it is irrational.

Blocking a bullet.

Also, yes - in many cases.

If they're OK, we'll need a case of self-sacrifice being 'irrational in a bad way'.

The examples given above would qualify - in most cases.