(July 31, 2013 at 11:59 am)Consilius Wrote:(July 31, 2013 at 11:02 am)genkaus Wrote: Not according to your morality - which is what makes your morality irrational.What I'm getting from you is that self-sacrifice is bad. You see, you didn't answer the question, and resorted to a backhanded comment.
(July 31, 2013 at 11:15 am)Texas Sailor Wrote: Again, you're gonna have to nail down the examples that you are deeming as irrational. I addressed some examples above were not irrational, and described some that are irrational. The irrational forms of self-sacrifice listed above are objectively bad as they relate to society. Saying that something is irrational, isn't enough to know whether or not its morally bad. I would need more information than that.I don't see an instance where self-sacrifice, an irrational act, would be immoral.
Human sacrifice on the part of the victims would be moral, if they had consented to it. To the sacrificers, no. The victim truly believes that his or her death will benefit others. It is still altruism.
You don't see an example in this thread or you cannot imagine one?
9/11 ring any bells?