Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism

[Undeceived]

Scientists do their best to explain a universe without a catalyst. They are still looking for a catalyst, it just can't be God. It's their job to find material solutions to natural processes. And it's our job to understand that. Once scientists try to explain something beyond/before the natural world, they need not be trusted--they are by definition outside of their field of expertise.

And anyone who says the any such catalyst must be Supernatural should never be trusted.

Some thing/event/force caused the universe to begin. You believe that much, I hope. Whatever that thing/event/force was, it cannot be natural because it was not part of the universe. It is therefore supernatural.

http://orthosphere.org/2012/03/31/nature...in-itself/

That is where logic carries us, at least. You might assert that some things/events/forces are capable of causing themselves, but then you'd have to prove that (if you wish to adhere to the scientific method).