Unconventional Religion

[Consilius]

You don't see an example in this thread or you cannot imagine one?

9/11 ring any bells?

There were very many unwilling victims in that sacrifice.

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It'd also not preach irrational concepts such as self-sacrifice/altruism being universally good. As a matter of fact, it would advise against in in most cases.

Christianity, however, does preach those concepts. And a host of other irrational tenets.

So, according to this morality, the Christian morality is irrational and immoral.

Which means, even in its beginning, Christianity had to practice controlling the masses if they had to get them to accept those irrational tenets as a good idea - and this is the point of the whole thread.

I have yet to see a case of self-sacrifice being bad. You are balancing on that premise.

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You have yet to establish that ALL acts of self-sacrifice are irrational.

It is by nature irrational.
Self-sacrifice is giving something of yours to someone else. The giver no longer can use the item he is giving away (life, health, time) to survive. Some would say it is counterproductive.
There are also many proofs that altruism is in our nature. That we do things for the good of the group. When we reduce personal chances of surviving, we increase group chances of surviving.
genekaus doesn't seem to be interested in that other part. So we will treat self-sacrifice as counterproductive and irrational without referencing the biological side of it.

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Fully human and fully divine?

According to Liebniz' law, which rests on classical logic and traditional ontologies, in order for two hypothetical things to be the same thing, they must share all the same properties. I am fully human. There are many properties of the divine which I lack. However, to be fully divine, I would have to possess all these properties. If a thing is any part divine in a non-human way, then they are not fully human. If they possess human characteristics which the divine do not possess, then they are not fully divine.

You can't define something by what it doesn't have.
Humans are not things that can NOT see the future, do NOT fly, and are NOT invisible. Well, they are, but that does not define a human. Humans are things that can remember events, walk on land, and have two arms.
God is something that is invisible, not something that can NOT forget.

Christ, therefore, had every attribute of God and every attribute of a human.