RE: Blind faith and evolution
August 1, 2013 at 3:28 am
(This post was last modified: August 1, 2013 at 4:15 am by Little Rik.)
bennyboy Wrote:MEDITATION: you're doing it wrong. 'Cuz Buddha says NO! to flame wars and bright-colored all-caps.
Oh, i thought was Christ that say turn the other cheek when someone pester you?
Ok, i will ask Buddha for clarifications.
By the way i do not follow Buddha but i could ask my friend Stimbo how to deal with these pests.
Stimbo Wrote:What we are saying is that it is the meditation that produces chemical changes in the brain, not that you need to use drugs and chemical substances to get the effect. You do know that the body produces and reacts to its own chemicals, right? That includes the brain. My question, which you dodged a second time, is how do you tell the difference between the effect of neurochemicals on the brain and an actual "higher consciousness" experience giving you these fuzzy feelings?
If you read Abe Alexander book PROOF OF HEAVEN you will find an explanation about it.
This neurosurgeon before his NDE did not believe in higher consciousness and the fact that was possible to experience his own I out his body.
He also explain the difference between experiences with drugs and natural out of body experiences in which everything is clear and focus unlike experiences with drugs.
Now when we talk about neurochemicals on the brain we got to understand the difference between effect caused by drugs and effect caused by natural means because also with drugs you can experience a lot but this come under the term "chemical masturbation".
When you cause effects with drugs you also can go OVER the brain and into consciousness so meditation is not the only way to go into higher consciousness but the chemical masturbation produce terrible effect afterward and to go back to that higher state you got to go back to using more drugs unlike the natural way in which the positive feeling stay with you.
Now it is important to understand that it is not the brain that experience the high consciousness but the real I.
It is like when you ride a vehicle.
The vehicle take you here or there but is you as the driver that enjoy the ride.
So although is the brain that produce all the reaction it is you that enjoy.
In other words is not that there is a difference between.......... the effect of neurochemicals on the brain and an actual "higher consciousness" experience giving you these fuzzy feelings...........but is that brain and consciousness play two separate roles.