(July 31, 2013 at 11:07 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(July 31, 2013 at 7:11 am)Consilius Wrote: Or details of it were slightly altered or cut out as time went on and motives changed.It isn't just petty details that changed. Further, you can see a logical progression and escalation with each successive Gospel.
Take John the Baptist, for example. His followers, the Mandaens, were rivals of the early Christians. Somehow, they didn't get the memo that their leader knelt before Jesus and proclaimed himself merely a forerunner. It's a tactic that worked so well, Muslims later did that to Jesus.
With each successive Gospel, John the Baptist sinks lower and lower onto his knees until he never even baptizes Jesus at all in John. It's not hard to see the theological agenda at work here.
My bad for mis-remembering the Garden of Gethsemane prayer. It's been a while since I've read the Gospels.
Quote:Fully God, fully man. He is where both meet. Divine goodness reveals itself to fallen humanity for the purpose of bringing fallen humanity to divine goodness. He became what we are to make us what he is. He is the path to salvation. And so on.You'll pardon me, I hope, if I tell you I only hear babbling. The Trinity and fuzzy notion of "fully God and fully human at the same time" to be so much nonsense invented to explain nonsense.
It amazes me that anyone ever believed this stuff, never mind in today's age, and it's enough to shake my confidence that we're endowed with the Gift of Reason and maybe the atheists are right that we were lucky to get this far.
I would guess you had no answer to my question: Who, and what is God's Messiah, promised by Him?
Maybe you need a month to find an answer?
Quis ut Deus?
