(August 6, 2013 at 6:29 pm)bladevalant546 Wrote: I know you all know of the Kübler-Ross model, I found an interesting article that kinda examines how it pertains to the deconversion process.
I find the methods of deconversion and how one deals with it very simliar atleast in my case. So what are yalls thoughts?
http://www.ex-christian.net/topic/21830-...ion/page-1
I think this form of deconversion is pretty narrow in scope. It refers to people (especially Christians) who used to be very devout and had a religious upbringing who converted due to finding out facts previously unknown. But there are other models of deconversion as well:
The 4-phase model:
1. Religion isn't something I think much about - I follow the rituals my parents did and I like the idea of a kind and loving god watching over me and the morals and lessons in those texts seem so intuitively good and true that I believe its quite likely it came from god.
2. Now that I read a more deeply, I find out that yes, there are a lot of horrible parts there as well. But, its possible that only the good parts came from god and the rest came from people.
3. But the same logic can easily apply to other religions too - and to a lot of fictional works as well. There is nothing outstanding within it that it could not have come from human imagination - no outstanding morals or scientific knowledge. But I guess its still possible that they got the thing about there being a god right.
4. Who am I kidding? Religious texts aren't evidence for god - they were written by people like me who believed because they wanted to. There is really no good evidence to be found and I shouldn't believe simply because I like the idea - ok, I'm an atheist now.
3-phase model:
1. I believe in god - not one of a specific religion, but more as a general idea - and I my belief is justified.
2. My reasons? Well, the universe had to - no, wait, there are to actual answers there. What about justice? Bad people should - no, that goes nowhere either. Well, human physiology - no, that's a bullshit argument too. Fine, I don't have good reasons - I believe because I want to.
3. Why should I believe just because I want to? I don't do that anywhere else. If I can't justify it, I shouldn't believe it. I'm an atheist now.
2-phase model:
1. My friend has been raving about this author - he talks about god and stuff - might be interesting.
2. Mind = Blown. This dude makes so much sense. I never thought of it like that. I guess I'm an atheist now.
1-Phase model
1. Why god, why? How could you take her away from me? No - if there was a god, he wouldn't be such a shit-eating douchebag. Which means there must not be a god.
