RE: Unconventional Religion
August 10, 2013 at 7:09 am
(This post was last modified: August 10, 2013 at 7:10 am by Consilius.)
(August 10, 2013 at 4:21 am)genkaus Wrote: I gave three and the point was to show that your morality promotes poverty and self-sacrifice.I know. But not only are there few of them, they are of poor quality. Only the camel verse is an instruction to be poor.
Quote:I told you that already - certain philosophers, such as Mazzino Montineri looked into it and figured it out.Did he figure it out as a philosopher or as a historian? Did he logically deduce it or did he find physical evidence for it?
(August 10, 2013 at 4:08 am)Consilius Wrote: Losing money doesn't necessarily lead to suffering?
Quote:Not if you prepare for it.So taking a vow of voluntary poverty doesn't necessarily lead to suffering.
Quote:Precisely - there is no universal moral reason in play here by which you are obligated to do anything.So you can just walk by, if you wanted to, and leave the woman to die.
Quote:No, its the opposite - its because you have changed what it was that we now use different words for it.It's not changed, we've simply drawn on it. Aristotle's writings are still in circulation, untouched by the Catholic Church. And the virtue of prudence, as preached by the Church from the Bible, still regulates self-sacrifice.
(August 10, 2013 at 4:08 am)Consilius Wrote: Loving someone doesn't automatically make them worthy of you sacrificing anything for them.
Quote:Yes, it does.Love is irrelevant to productivity. It is an unnecessary waste to give without getting back just because you love someone.
(August 10, 2013 at 4:08 am)Consilius Wrote: But say neither person sacrificed anything to do so.
Quote:Which is why they are equally moral.You forgot the situation. Neither man suffered a loss, but one let the poor people die, and the other didn't.