(August 10, 2013 at 7:27 am)genkaus Wrote: If you think your biblical instructions are of poor quality, why do you follow them?The Bible verses you used as evidence are poor quality support for your view.
Quote:How is that relevant to this discussion? Look it up.I needed you to tell me that Montinari studied Neitzche's work and dismissed some of it as forgery as a scholar, not a historian, possibly because he noticed contradictions.
(August 10, 2013 at 7:09 am)Consilius Wrote: So taking a vow of voluntary poverty doesn't necessarily lead to suffering.
Quote:No, that one would lead to suffering.You lost money, and you were prepared for it. Especially if you wanted to lose the money, there should be no suffering at all.
(August 10, 2013 at 7:09 am)Consilius Wrote: And the virtue of prudence, as preached by the Church from the Bible, still regulates self-sacrifice.
Quote:Further, the catholic virtue of prudence was not taught in the bible but was hijacked from earlier Greek philosophers as evidenced by the fact that characters in the bible and the early followers did not practice prudence.I referenced the Bible's take on prudence, written long before Aristotle was supposedly born.
And you regard the disciples of Christ as imprudent because of your disbelief in self-sacrifice. If you took your personal views out of it, this wouldn't be a problem.
Quote:Who says you are not getting anything back? Not all value is monetary in nature.Why not go back and help the woman on the bridge then?
Quote:Yes, that is the situation I'm talking about - both are equally moral.Allowing the loss of a life you have the means to save is the same as murder.