(August 14, 2013 at 1:03 am)Bravo Wrote: How about when you pray for someone's health or for someone in trouble? How does that fit with this?
Prayer is what was modeled by Christ in the first part of Luke 11. (The Lord's Prayer.)
"When you Pray, Pray like this:"
"Our Father who is in Heaven Holy is you name."
(Acknoweledgement of God's power and authority)
"Your kingdom come"
(Asking God to usher in His Kingdom)
"Your will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven."
(Meaning we adopt His will as our own/accept what He has in store for us.)
"Give us this day our daily bread."
(This is the only opportunity we have to Ask for stuff, and Christ limits it for our needs. One can argue here that our Health would fit this category.)
"Forgive us as we forgive those who sin against us."
(In this part of the Lord's prayer we are asking God to make our salvation conditional or tie our salvation to our ablity to forgive those who sin against us.)
This is the outline of actual 'prayer'.' Which according to Paul in 2 tim is different from supplication/petitioning god for wants and desires. Which again is not a sin, but has been separated from actual prayer. By Christ in his model prayer and through the identification by Paul.
