RE: Atheists are mentally ill
August 23, 2013 at 9:38 am
(This post was last modified: August 23, 2013 at 9:40 am by Sword of Christ.)
(August 23, 2013 at 9:09 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: But god doesn't exist.
How do you know that? Why does the universe exist then? Why is it so finely and precisely tuned? Do we have any independent freewill of our own? Is morality purely what we make up as we go along? These are questions that begin to crop up once you start to reject the concept of God the creator and sustainer of all that exists.
(August 23, 2013 at 9:09 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: He had the ability to heal everyone but he didn't.
He had the physical and mental limitations of a physical human man as that is what he was. He wasn't say God taking on the form of a human he was fully human like us. He was nonetheless still fully God.
(August 23, 2013 at 9:09 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: How is he not a murdering monster? He only healed some to prove his point. He also did not bother to visit anyone in other parts of the world at all, dooming them to hell.
This was somewhat before fast international travel, no cars, trains or planes just for horse power. And no couldn't fly around himself like Superman, well perhaps he could levitate himself a bit that may have been demonstrated when he walked on water. It's still walking speed though he wasn't turbo powered. Teleportation/trans-location he could apparently do but only post resurrection, like when he appeared in a locked room before Thomas for instance. God may be unlimited in power but there may be a limit to the amount of power that can be put through a physical human form.
(August 23, 2013 at 9:09 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: I doubt you actually read the OT if you think god promoted equality. And I don't worship anything that's good enough. Anything that's worthy of worship would not require worship and would be perfect.
Absolutely he did, and also see Jesus's parable of the good Samaritan. Samaritans being a much hated ethnic group for Jews at the time. Jesus did have some degree reluctance to heal non-Jews/pagans as would be typical for a Jewish man of the time but he quickly changed his mind on this, much to the bewilderment of his disciples when he did. So you have both the real humanity of Jesus as a historical man and through him the power of God, and the foundation of our civilization and moral values today.
(August 23, 2013 at 9:09 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Please keep in mind that all these are only an issue if your god exists, he doesn't.
Perhaps he does exist but you're just not understanding it?
(August 23, 2013 at 9:09 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Someone has to be wrong. You are.
We could be both wrong but one of us will at least be far closer to the truth than the other. Though if atheism is wrong it's going to be spectacularly wrong, it's something of an all or nothing gambit. All it takes is for God to exist. It doesn't even have to be the Christian God or anything to do with Jesus but I'd say that's where to put your money on not Mohammed or Joesph Smith.
(August 23, 2013 at 9:09 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Wishful thinking is believing in something that isn't in line with reality, that's what you're doing. Opinions don't change facts.
If God exists then no matter how strong your opinion that he doesn't it won't make him suddenly vanish either. What makes you think your opinion is the right one? What basis do you have for this? It's what you think because it's what you like to think?