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Atheists are mentally ill
RE: Atheists are mentally ill
(August 24, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:
Quote: Actually you're so dishonest you'll probably try to sneak this in again and again. But ummm ... no. If virgin birth can be written but did not happen, then the same goes for the resurrection. Did not happen.
No because there is a good case that the resurrection did actually happen. That is the only miracle you really have to believe in to be a Christian. It may not have happened exactly as described and the original accounts seem to end at the discovery of the empty tomb. The resurrection account being added slightly later. But either way that's the main event there anything else is a bit academic.

An empty tomb has many explanations that do not require a supernatural event. An empty tomb gets you nothing, and as you admit, the resurrection stories are a later embellishment, and therefore suspect. It's worth noting that in the first centuries after the alleged death and resurrection of the hypothetical Jesus, there was no veneration of his tomb. This is odd because even for figures who were similarly said to have been resurrected or taken up in antiquity, there is often tomb veneration. Perhaps the best explanation for the lack of tomb veneration is that the story of the empty tomb didn't develop until many years after the supposed event. There is no tomb veneration, because by the time the story of the empty tomb was created, nobody knew where the original tomb actually was. If you actually know the location of Christ's tomb and can prove that it is Christ tomb, that would be helpful for your case. Failing that, what we have is a claim that a tomb was empty (made many years after the event by an anonymous author), with no actual tomb to examine. That's pretty weak.


(August 24, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: The beginning of Christianity as a movement within Judaism wasn't a historical event?

The beginning of Christianity is not a supernatural event and therefore needs no supernatural explanation.[Image: w20.png][Image: coffee.gif]

(August 24, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Or you mean the life and crucifixion of a man called Jesus (Yeshua) of Nazareth wasn't a historical event?

Not a supernatural event. [Image: w20.png][Image: coffee.gif]

(August 24, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: The discovery of the empty tomb wasn't an historical event?

Not a supernatural event. [Image: w20.png][Image: coffee.gif]

(August 24, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: You mean Saint Paul's vision on the road to Damascus and his mission to the Gentiles wasn't an historical event?

Again, not a supernatural event. [Image: w20.png][Image: coffee.gif]

(August 24, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: I think you find it all was but you have to explain all these details and all this came to be without it being any kind of significant supernatural event from God.

Since none of the laundry list of events you've given is supernatural in character, explaining them without reference to the supernatural is trivially easy. That you think the task would be difficult only suggests that you're a confused idiot who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.


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Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 14, 2013 at 9:02 pm
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RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Minimalist - August 14, 2013 at 9:24 pm
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RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Jackalope - August 14, 2013 at 9:12 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 14, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 14, 2013 at 10:00 pm
RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Jackalope - August 14, 2013 at 10:03 pm
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RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Faith No More - August 14, 2013 at 10:17 pm
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RE: Atheists are mentally ill - by Rayaan - August 15, 2013 at 1:09 am
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