Unconventional Religion

[Consilius]

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Why would we send someone to jail for simply trying to perpetuate his genetic code?

Because that's the rule created by the human institutions.

So rape is bad because they said so. Why doesn't the poplulace revoke this extraneous law? Why was it created in the first place? Was it that darn Jesus again?

Because altruism can be conducive to the survival of the species.

I thought altruism was dangerous and irrational.

No, the survival of humanity has been about that. The progression is the result of rational thought.

To acheive progress, the rich and powerful need to advance themselves and leave everyone else in the dust. I'm not going to attack that. You have the right to hold a selfish philosophy.

Are you saying that what applied to that man does not apply to you? That sounds like moral relativity.

I would be if Jesus had pulled the rich man out of a crowd. He approached Jesus and presented his own simplistic view of religion. He needed his understanding to be shaken up so he could think differently.

The whole "accept Jesus to get into heaven" schtick is the free-pass as well as a one-stop shop.

And what exactly is "accepting Jesus" to you?

And the rich young man was not asking for a free-pass given his inquiry about what he must do.

Guess what? The whole concept of 'doing' anything to deserve anything is the definition of the "free pass".

If the shoe fits....

Oh, so you are NOT building up walls to fuel your hatred of Christianity?

So, earning something is the easy way out and getting it for free is the difficult way out?

If salvation was a dollar given to a bum, we'd all get it, and at the same time not all of us would be in the circumstances to do so. Which is why salvation is a universal gift waiting to be recieved. The reception of salvation lies in who you are as a person, but the offer was freely made before you made any action to take it. Salvation is a possession that must be claimed, but how easy is it to make that claim? To become something that can possess it?

If salvation cannot be earned, then trying to earn salvation would be the most difficult thing one could attempt.

More than that—it is futile.

Then that means he was lying to the rich man. That your Jesus was a hypocrite and a liar.

What false statement did he make? The sentence begins…"If you want to be perfect". Christ's reaction to the rich man's plea was for the purpose of establishing a truth.

Except, I'm not a materialist.

Whatever the term for your morals may be. How about 'rationality'? When your every action is so restricted to the greatest net profit that any sense of "we are the world" becomes nothing more than sentiment.

Why would soliciting donations be irrational?

Because they are tempting other forum members into irrationality.