RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 26, 2013 at 11:09 am
(This post was last modified: August 26, 2013 at 11:13 am by Sword of Christ.)
(August 26, 2013 at 10:52 am)Esquilax Wrote: See, if you just persist with your dishonest strawmen and let our arguments flow off of you, then nobody is going to want to play with you anymore.
If God doesn't exist then what does? It will have to be eternally existent matter/energy by itself. There won't be a cause or reason for it it's just there as it is.
(August 26, 2013 at 10:57 am)Psykhronic Wrote: The current understanding is - physics. That is a reason. Physics. Sorry it's not mystical enough for you. Atheists tend to deny an existential purpose outside of science.
Where did "physics" come from? It just exists for no reason is what you're saying. I'm saying God created and finely engineered the laws of physics and that's why the universe exists. I'd say God is better because you have a reason for what we can actually observe to exist, rather than it being just there for no reason without an explanation. You also have an explanation for why the laws of physics are as apparently as finely tuned as they are. You have to say this was all random or something.
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.