Pleasure and Joy

[Harris]

Ok let me ask you a few questions then just to clear things up.

You say any religion that makes people feel superior to others is responsible for human anguish. I think that's what you were saying.

Hi Paulpablo,
You are spot-on, this is what I wrote:

“If some religion or ideology provoke it’s followers to feel superior over others that religion or ideology becomes the basis of human agonies.”

I wrote that not by mistake.

Ok so let me show you this verse once more.
Quote:"O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection"

I'm sure you see yourself as a follower of Jesus, is that correct?

Do you believe in what the quran is saying here or is this a bad translation?

I am a disbeliever, do you believe you are superior to me until the day of resurrection?

I can't see how your answer could be no.

1. You had not quoted full Ayet which is:

“Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.”
Ali Imran (3)
-Verse 55-

I quoted from the translation of Yusuf Ali. I made the portion of this Ayet Bold in which you are most interested. Yes, you are correct these are the words of Quran.

2. I don’t know to which category of disbelievers you belongs to:

a. You open your eyes in a disbelieving family that is the reason you are disbeliever
b. You saw evil acts of religious crooks and that makes you a disbeliever
c. You can’t swallow natural disasters in which innocent people face great sufferings
d. You don’t understand why Allah let people spread mischief in the land and why in wars innocent and poor women and children receiving bombs over their heads.
e. You are disbeliever because you want to live for your pleasures and you don’t want to comply with any religious law. You have rejected the Divinity for the sake of your pleasures and joys.

In the five mentioned categories if you belong to one or all first four categories then chance and hope is yet open for you. If you belong to the last category then to it belong arrogant people who made their beings superior over others. These people are the real evil spreaders. Quran condemn them in sturdiest way and it confirmed they are the worst of all human beings. For them is Hell Fire. They will receive unimaginable torment in Hell Fire where they neither live nor die. Religious hypocrites who use religion or manipulate religion according to their desires would also be the fuel of Hell Fire for misguiding naïve people.

Jesus was a Nobel Prophet. You can’t find anything against his personality in Quran, in Bible, and in any book of history. There is no other model of humbleness, piety, generosity, wisdom, etc. like Jesus.

Yes, there is no match between arrogant people and Jesus along with his disciples. Jesus and his disciples were far superior to arrogant evil doers. From Jesus and his disciples no one got hurt but they showed great patience over persecutions by the hands of disgusting arrogant disbelievers of his time.

I hope you now have the picture why disbelievers are hated people overall.

2nd question, do you believe the religion you follow (Islam) is superior over all religions?

Quote:It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it).

Again, there seems to be only 3 options,
1 you don't believe the quran is true,
2 you think both these translations are wrong,
3 you do believe Islam is superior and that you are superior to people who disbelieve until the day of resurrection.

If I'm missing an option out please let me know.

I am a follower of Prophet Mohammad. I do believe that Islam is superior over all religions of the world. The reason for my belief is:

1. Allah had given Psalm to Prophet David as Divine Law. People have corrupted that law. Then Allah revived the law by sending Torah over Prophet Moses. However, after Prophet Moses people have corrupted Torah as well. Then Allah again revived the Divine Law by sending Gospel over Prophet Jesus and unfortunately, people have corrupted the Gospel too.

Then finally, Allah revealed Quran over Prophet Mohammed. Allah declared Quran to be the last and final revelation. This time Allah took the responsibility Himself for the security of His last and final revelation from being corrupted.

We have, without doubt, sent down the Message (Quran); and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).
Al Hijr (15)
-Verse 9-

Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy.
An Nisaa (4)
-Verse 82-

Quran is the only Scripture in the world, which has survived more than 1,400 years without being corrupted. I count it a miracle as there is no other scripture or book (equivalent in volume to Quran), which has survived more than 100 years from not being corrupted. This is a living fact.

2. Allah has protected Quran in human memories. I am confident in stating that it is impossible for some person to memorise complete book (equivalent in volume to Quran) in foreign tongue without knowing the language. However, this Glory goes to Quran.

According to conservative figures, there are around 30,000,000 people around the world who saved Quran in their brains and 70% - 75% of those people don’t know Arabic as language. The people who memorised Quran belong to every culture, colour, and race of human civilizations. It is simply a miracle.

I re-quote the verse again from the translation of Yusuf Ali

It is He Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion: and enough is Allah for a Witness.
Al Fat-h (48)
-Verse 28-