(August 26, 2013 at 2:16 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I belong to none of the categories you mentioned.
It isn't wars or natural disasters or religious crooks or temptation of pleasures. That would be illogical.
I don't believe in Islam because I don't believe a lot of the claims you just made were true, I don't believe in flying horses, sticks that turn into snakes, adam and eve.
Hi Paulpablo
It seems you have not read my long post with care.
Everyone has freedom of choice. If you want to disagree with my reasoning, you are most welcome but if you are attacking on my reasoning by saying, I am lying then you have to prove that by giving evidences and reference material. Saying, “You are a liar” in empty space is easy. A child of 3rd grade can say that.
Show the world that Quran is corrupted and it has discrepancies. There are many Atheist Brothers and Sister waiting to have some good fun out of our discussion.
Simply prove false following two verses by giving evidences from Quran and by giving logical and rational reasoning.
We have, without doubt, sent down the Message (Quran); and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).
Al Hijr (15)
-Verse 9-
Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy.
An Nisaa (4)
-Verse 82-
(August 26, 2013 at 2:16 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I never will believe in any of these things because there's no reason for me to do so. I can tell you now from the Islamic perspective there will never be any hope for me.
I repeat you are free to build anything based on your ideas. If your ideas are good and correct then you will be a happy man but if not then you alone would be responsible for bad consequences. For your life, decision is yours not mine.
(August 26, 2013 at 2:16 pm)paulpablo Wrote: You didn't answer my question.
Is it correct you follow Jesus as a prophet of Islam? As far as I'm aware all of the prophets of Islam are equal, so when I ask you "Do you follow Jesus" you saying "I follow the prophet Muhammad" Is an illogical answer.
Yes, all Biblical prophets are holy for me. I don’t make any distinction between them. They were all messengers of Allah and brought the same message to their nations.
(August 26, 2013 at 2:16 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Quote:"O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection.
So the question is do you follow Jesus the Islamic prophet,
Yes, I believe Jesus taught exactly what Mohammad taught to his people and Jesus was an Islamic Prophet.
(August 26, 2013 at 2:16 pm)paulpablo Wrote: And are you superior to me right now?
I don’t know whether I am superior to you or inferior. This knowledge is only with Allah Who knows what is hidden in our minds and what deeds we had done in our lives.
To be Muslim doesn’t mean I am Superior. My deeds along with my faith will make me superior or inferior at the Day of Judgment.
In this world if some Muslim will say he is superior than you then by this he is collecting trouble over his head for the Day of Judgment.
(August 26, 2013 at 2:16 pm)paulpablo Wrote: The quran says you are superior to me until the day of resurrection, this is according to the quran, Right now I can tell you Muhammad to me is just a dead religious conman, if he ever existed at all, and you are a Muslim, so do you believe you are superior to me?
The quran has also said Islam is superior over all religions so do you believe that is true?
In my previous post, I had given you my response on this question. I had also given you a proper reason for that.
You have rejected my reasoning and announced my reasoning to be a deceit. So now, you have to prove the two verses are false.
Al Hijr (15), -Verse 9-
An Nisaa (4) -Verse 82-
Once you prove above verses false with success after that I will ask you to prove that Prophet Mohammad was a Conman.
Throwing words in thin air is easy. If you have, muscles then come with evidences and references.