Pleasure and Joy

[Harris]

You believe in the quran when it speaks of sticks turning into snakes but you seem to have trouble admitting the quran says that you are superior to me....

See Paulpablo!

I am not fighting with you and don’t want to. You are welcome to agree or disagree with my views. Its your choice.

I don’t feel myself superior or inferior in any sense. I am a normal person who has no problem to have a meal together with theist or atheist, scholar or layman, rich or poor, young or old, black or white without any discrimination.

However, it seems you are ambitious to put your thoughts into my mouth. Your arguments are indicating that perhaps you are in fact having superiority or inferiority complex (I am sorry if I am mistaken).

I praise Quran with highest words of respect. I count it to be the SUPERIOR MOST SCRIPTURE over all scriptures and books of the world. I literally count it to be a MIRACLE. I came to this opinion after I have studied Quran in little depth. My opinion has nothing to do with Blind Faith.

If you are troubled with this assertion then you have your choice. Prove Quran is false by using methods of science, Logic, and rationale. What you are thinking about me or what I am thinking about you is not important here.

Let me simplify your task. You just show the world that Quran has:

1. Discrepancies
2. Contradictions
3. Scientific errors and
4. mathematical errors

This way you will refute the claim what Quran made in:

Al Hijr (15), -Verse 9-
An Nisaa (4) -Verse 82-

I assume you are a learned person and I expect to have a literary dialog with you rather receiving adamant responses similar to what a stubborn little girl might give.

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I am not against science. I don’t deny the prominence of science but argue that science has not come to the stage where it can define self-consciousness.

You are wrong. It has.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/articl...-1,00.html

Hello genkaus,

Thank you for pointing towards Pinker’s article. Although the article has contradictions within its context, yet it is an enlightening article.

Your comments, in fact excited me, but after reading the article, I only got disappointment.

The article is speculative in nature especially where Pinker discussed on “TACKLING THE HARD PROBLEM”

Look what he wrote:

“No one knows what to do with the Hard Problem. Some people may see it as an opening to sneak the soul back in, but this just re-labels the mystery of "consciousness" as the mystery of "the soul"--a word game that provides no insight…

…Whatever the solutions to the Easy and Hard problems turn out to be, few scientists doubt that they will locate consciousness in the activity of the brain.”

So unfortunately, science only has speculations and it has not even scratched the surface of Self-Consciousness/Soul.