RE: Not again! -- Encouragement Please
August 27, 2013 at 3:56 pm
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2013 at 4:00 pm by Drich.)
(August 27, 2013 at 12:07 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:(August 27, 2013 at 8:53 am)Drich Wrote: It is with who you think God to be, and because you can not reconcile your personal understanding of God with the description of God found in the bible.
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You do understand with out the bible we have no true understanding of Good and Evil right? Only what soceity defines as 'morality.' Which can mean giving aid to those in need to putting Jews in camps to roundup native Americans and putting them in camps, to slavery. All of those things have been deemed a soceital "moral obligation" at one point or another.
In short 'morality' is simply what a given generation are willing to accept as 'normal' behaivor. which again varies and has no real meaning nor is it tied to any real standard.
So to judge God by this crap standard is completely meaningless. It is as stupid as a death camp Nazi saying you are evil because you will not turn over a jew to be put to death... So who cares what the death camp Nazi judges as immoral. His standard is meaningless even by your version of morality. So too is your standard of 'Good and evil' when God is the final judge.
(August 27, 2013 at 2:23 pm)Ryantology Wrote:(August 27, 2013 at 8:53 am)Drich Wrote: Your problem is not with Genesis. It is with who you think God to be, and because you can not reconcile your personal understanding of God with the description of God found in the bible, you assume the bible is in error. If you took the time to take an honest look at the God of the bible and build your understanding of God off of the bible alone you would not find error nor contradiction.
The problem is that none of us can read about the berserk psychopath of the OT or the manipulative sociopath of the NT and accept that such a being is the source of all that is good in the universe. Well, that and the obvious fictional nature of the whole thing.
Before you start trying to sell us on the benefits of worshiping a berserk psychopath/manipulative sociopath, you have to clear the hurdle of proving that your God is objectively real. How God is described is rather beside the point until you figure that one out.
In fact, I would suggest that an atheist 'understands' God according to the Bible better than anyone, for we understand that he doesn't exist except as a character on its pages.
Again you want 'proof?' then A/S/K for it as I did. Tell God you want proof so bad that even if it cost you your health you are willing to pay that price, and continue 'knocking' till God gives you what you want. Then you will have what you have been A/S/K for.
(August 27, 2013 at 2:45 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Not interested in your brand of morality nor am I interested in talking to someone about reality when they don't know the difference between perception and reality. Again, buy a dictionary.
see what i wrote to Spicolli above.

