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Well! Its your opinion. I respect that.

Well, it was a fact. And facts don't require your respect.

Good Job.
I like your style of refutation. At least you are giving supporting material with your arguments.

I know all these and other similar allegations by heart. For you these allegations maybe a rocket science but for me these are no more than a schoolboy’s joke. Pick couple of most prominent contradictions and give me so I will refute them right here in this forum.

You say I have a blind faith but you are demonstrating it is in fact you who have blind faith in such allegations as you don’t even bother to verify whether those allegations are correct or not.

Let me inform you it is Dr. William Campbell (a doctor and Christian missionary) who originated most of those allegations. He lived and worked in Morocco and Tunisia for long time and knows fluent Arabic.

I recommend you to have a look on the work of Jochen Katz as well

http://www.answering-islam.org

You may find some good evidences against Quran from there as well.

Anyway, I am waiting to see few of your most favourite allegations

I've given you a whole list of them - refute them all. I don't need to pick and choose "just a few" - even if one of those contradictions and scientific discrepancies is is not show to be absolutely and undeniably
incorrect, then by your admission, quran is not superior or miraculous.

For the record, this isn't rocket science - it is at the level of a schoolboy's joke. That's the level of your quran - that even a schoolboy would be able to see how ridiculous and moronic it is. The only reason you can't is because of your blind faith.

As a matter of fact, even if I were to point to a single discrepancy, your faith is so predictable that I can probably lay out the whole discussion for you. It'd be a long and boring discussion which would end in you giving up or appealing to faith.

Simply, remember if someday someone finds some really authentic contradiction or discrepancy in Quran CNN and BBC would be the first to give a shout on that. It would be the biggest news in the world.

Try to remember that it won't even qualify as news. Existence of authentic contradictions and discrepancies in quran is a well known and well established fact. We don't discuss it in polite company so as not to hurt the feewings of wee-muslim babies. The only reason you don't see it and desperately try to excuse, justify or otherwise rationalize them is because of your blind faith.

Well! When I wrote:

“…science has not come to the stage where it can define self-consciousness.”

You wrote

“You are wrong. It has.”

Means we are talking about Hard Verifiable Evidences.

After I checked the article, I did not find any scientific evidence on the discovery of consciousness.

First part of the article mostly talked about how brain is functioning. In the second part, especially in HARD PROBLEM the author is giving clear signals that there are no scientific proofs on the discovery of Consciousness and indeed, there are no hard evidences in the article that can be verified by other scientists. The article is speculative in nature.

I already said I know that you didn't understand the article - you don't have to prove it.

Consciousness is the function of brain - that's what the article establishes. That's what it gives copious amount of evidence for. He has given you a lot of cases and methods of detecting consciousness - solid, verifiable evidence reviewed by a whole lot of scientists. The speculative parts only address the currently less understood aspects of consciousness - but a great part of it is very well understood. By them, not by you, obviously.