(August 28, 2013 at 10:26 pm)missluckie26 Wrote:(August 28, 2013 at 8:55 pm)smax Wrote: How exactly did the Psalms describe Jesus?
I'd like something more tangible than "a self-fulfilling prophecy".
Psalms were described to me as being written a thousands years prior to the birth of the Messiah being born in Galilee, at a certain astrological cycle, with surrounding events such as Herod's killing of all the jewish babies and such, then the death of Jesus also described and him only doing one thing to self fulfill that prophecy which was to drink wine during his death sentence. I was also told that there were tangible earth events (such as earthquakes and solar eclipses) and the Shroud of Turin being shredded in half-- that accompanied Jesus' death.
1. Is ANY of this verifiable through an outside source?
2. Are there records of this Jesus existing?
I thought the answer to those was no
Exactly. If you write history yourself, you can make anything happen within that history. The Bible is filled with fictional tales and events. Ofcourse the prophesies were fulfilled within that framework! LOL.
I'm very familiar with scripture, and can't think of a single thing within it that's impressive or compelling. It reads like non-sense and ultimately proves to be non-sense.
I'm only sad that I once felt compelled to say otherwise.