(August 29, 2013 at 4:30 am)Esquilax Wrote: Which assumes personhood on behalf of a fetus. My submission is that no such personhood exists up until a certain point, making that definition meaningless in the context of your broad, no-abortions-at-all stance.
Apparently you believe that another human being’s personhood is dependent upon what you believe; so if a white supremacist believes that blacks are not people, then he is not committing moralistic murder by killing them?
It is illogical to create a false distinction between a person and a living human being. Given the definition of the term, a fetus is a person, your opinion will not change that.
Person-
1. a human being, whether man, woman, or child.
2. a human being as distinguished from an animal or a thing.
(Webster’s)
(August 29, 2013 at 4:33 am)Maelstrom Wrote: Murder is illegal. Do you understand that which is illegal? Abortion is "legal". Do you understand that? Therefore, abortion is not murder.
Your ilk in the 1820s- “It is not illegal to kill your slave, therefore slaves are not people and killing your slave is not murder.”
We’re trying to change the laws because killing your unborn baby is murder and therefore should be illegal.
Do you understand that?
Quote: I swear, it is like attempting to teach a child. Their attention spans are not that great and they would rather have what they want than what is grounded in reality.
Even a child would understand that even if killing someone were legal it’d still be murder; children understand what you apparently do not, that the way things are does not prove anything in regards to the way things ought to be.
