Excluding identity from space-time was just a mental excercise to help me better understand a concept.
I feel consciousness is a constuct of ideals and values, is subjective and as a concept is immaterial. It may be created by the material brain, but the brain is just the machine that produces them. It obviously exists and is a universal concept, thus we can call it real, but I still wouldn't call it tangible. Could you? My point is trying to define , consciousness, holy spirit and concepts like God and irrational numbers. Christians view the holy spirit as something everyone has access to if it's accepted, therefore a universal existance of intangible concept, thus real. God is external from the self and thusly unprovable, but through the holy spirit can be "known" and better defined and seem more real and less intangible. Opinions?
I feel consciousness is a constuct of ideals and values, is subjective and as a concept is immaterial. It may be created by the material brain, but the brain is just the machine that produces them. It obviously exists and is a universal concept, thus we can call it real, but I still wouldn't call it tangible. Could you? My point is trying to define , consciousness, holy spirit and concepts like God and irrational numbers. Christians view the holy spirit as something everyone has access to if it's accepted, therefore a universal existance of intangible concept, thus real. God is external from the self and thusly unprovable, but through the holy spirit can be "known" and better defined and seem more real and less intangible. Opinions?
