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Poll: God of the Bible
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The god of the Bible is evil.
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The god of the Bible is good ... he just happens to do a LOT of horribly immoral things.
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God Is Evil
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RE: God is Evil
(September 2, 2013 at 10:11 pm)Drich Wrote: Maybe God is simply not bound to your definition or understanding of the word love.

Okay then, let's look at a definition of love that I agree with:

love
ləv/
noun
1. an intense feeling of deep affection.
synonyms: deep affection, fondness, tenderness, warmth, intimacy, attachment, endearment;

Let's see how that holds up in the Bible:

1 John 4:7-8 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.

Okay, that sounds nice. Let's try another word:

e·vil
ˈēvəl/
noun
1. profound immorality, wickedness, and depravity, esp. when regarded as a supernatural force.
synonyms: wickedness, bad, badness, wrongdoing, sin, ill, immorality, vice, iniquity, degeneracy, corruption, depravity, villainy, nefariousness, malevolence

Let's see how this holds up in the Bible:

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
—Isaiah 45:7

Wait, wait, wait! Hold the phone! I thought "God is love." How can God be love and yet be a creator of evil? How can someone that is supposed to, by a standard definition, be "an intense feeling of deep affection," and yet create "profound immorality, wickedness, and depravity?"

This statement from a website (http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightath...ates-evil/) says it better than I can:

"The text offers numerous occasions where God could have intervened to turn events to good and chose not to. He could, for example, have obliterated Satan and the rebel angels entirely, or at the very least confined them to Hell and not allowed them to escape, so that they could never have escaped to lead humanity into temptation. And God’s behavior in the whole Eden affair, in any case, smacks strongly of either extreme incompetence or deliberate malice – not least, his choice to transmit the curse of original sin to all subsequent generations rather than letting every human start off with a morally clean slate."

You say God is not bound by "my" interpretation of love. The Word of God says that he is love. How else am I supposed to understand it? What other definition is there? I've asked this on other threads: why would God make the Bible so confusing? Shouldn't he have written it, or at least guided the human writers so that it was clear, concise and unable to be debated?

If I am in error in some way, please, tell me what your definition of the love of God is, because if you think that I don't understand something, I honestly want to know what that is!
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”
- Buddha
"Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it."
- Dennis McKinsey
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Messages In This Thread
God Is Evil - by Cinjin - August 2, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by My imaginary friend is GOD - August 2, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by ITChick - August 2, 2013 at 3:13 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Bad Writer - August 2, 2013 at 3:36 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by ITChick - August 2, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Jackalope - August 2, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Captain Colostomy - August 2, 2013 at 3:23 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Nine - August 2, 2013 at 3:26 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Jackalope - August 2, 2013 at 5:29 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Tonus - August 2, 2013 at 8:33 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Doubting Thomas - August 2, 2013 at 3:26 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by CleanShavenJesus - August 2, 2013 at 3:36 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Brian37 - August 2, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Simon Moon - August 2, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Doubting Thomas - August 2, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Bad Writer - August 2, 2013 at 4:00 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by ITChick - August 2, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Bad Writer - August 2, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by ITChick - August 2, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Bad Writer - August 2, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Drich - August 3, 2013 at 12:17 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Brian37 - August 3, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Bad Writer - August 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Cinjin - August 3, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by The Meritocrat - August 3, 2013 at 4:36 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by catfish - August 3, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by The Meritocrat - August 3, 2013 at 5:54 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by catfish - August 3, 2013 at 5:58 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by The Meritocrat - August 3, 2013 at 6:04 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by catfish - August 3, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Faith No More - September 4, 2013 at 9:12 am
RE: God Is Evil - by Whateverist - September 4, 2013 at 10:30 am
RE: God Is Evil - by smax - September 5, 2013 at 3:01 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Beta Ray Bill - September 5, 2013 at 3:57 pm
God is Evil - by Beta Ray Bill - August 31, 2013 at 3:00 am
RE: God is Evil - by Captain Colostomy - August 31, 2013 at 5:57 am
RE: God is Evil - by Brian37 - August 31, 2013 at 7:21 am
RE: God is Evil - by genkaus - August 31, 2013 at 7:29 am
RE: God is Evil - by CapnAwesome - August 31, 2013 at 11:08 am
RE: God is Evil - by smax - August 31, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: God is Evil - by CleanShavenJesus - August 31, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Silver - August 31, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Beta Ray Bill - August 31, 2013 at 12:15 pm
RE: God is Evil - by CapnAwesome - August 31, 2013 at 1:03 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Beta Ray Bill - August 31, 2013 at 2:27 pm
RE: God is Evil - by CapnAwesome - August 31, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: God is Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 31, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: God is Evil - by ronedee - August 31, 2013 at 11:18 pm
RE: God is Evil - by pineapplebunnybounce - August 31, 2013 at 11:21 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Minimalist - August 31, 2013 at 11:33 pm
RE: God is Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 1, 2013 at 12:21 am
RE: God is Evil - by popeyespappy - September 1, 2013 at 12:58 am
RE: God is Evil - by Undeceived - September 1, 2013 at 2:19 am
RE: God is Evil - by smax - September 1, 2013 at 12:15 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Minimalist - September 1, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: God is Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 1, 2013 at 1:16 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Zen Badger - September 1, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Minimalist - September 1, 2013 at 5:52 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Brian37 - September 1, 2013 at 8:06 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Michael Schubert - September 1, 2013 at 8:10 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Bad Writer - September 1, 2013 at 8:56 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Lemonvariable72 - September 2, 2013 at 1:52 am
RE: God is Evil - by themonkeyman - September 2, 2013 at 6:43 am
RE: God is Evil - by John V - September 2, 2013 at 7:04 am
RE: God is Evil - by Bad Writer - September 2, 2013 at 11:23 am
RE: God is Evil - by CleanShavenJesus - September 2, 2013 at 12:23 pm
RE: God is Evil - by John V - September 2, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Bad Writer - September 2, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: God is Evil - by smax - September 2, 2013 at 8:02 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Drich - September 2, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Bad Writer - September 2, 2013 at 10:36 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Esquilax - September 3, 2013 at 12:29 am
RE: God is Evil - by max-greece - September 3, 2013 at 12:36 am
RE: God is Evil - by ronedee - September 3, 2013 at 12:56 am
RE: God is Evil - by Bad Writer - September 3, 2013 at 12:59 am
RE: God is Evil - by ronedee - September 3, 2013 at 1:14 am
RE: God is Evil - by Bad Writer - September 3, 2013 at 1:52 am
RE: God is Evil - by Beta Ray Bill - September 3, 2013 at 3:16 am
RE: God is Evil - by Esquilax - September 3, 2013 at 6:35 am
RE: God is Evil - by Drich - September 3, 2013 at 8:41 am
RE: God is Evil - by Captain Colostomy - September 3, 2013 at 9:03 am
RE: God is Evil - by Bad Writer - September 3, 2013 at 9:08 am
RE: God is Evil - by Esquilax - September 3, 2013 at 9:14 am
RE: God is Evil - by Bad Writer - September 3, 2013 at 10:02 am
RE: God is Evil - by ronedee - September 3, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Esquilax - September 4, 2013 at 12:37 am
RE: God Is Evil - by John V - September 4, 2013 at 8:36 am
RE: God Is Evil - by Esquilax - September 4, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: God Is Evil - by John V - September 4, 2013 at 11:06 am
RE: God Is Evil - by Ryantology - September 4, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: God Is Evil - by ronedee - September 4, 2013 at 12:57 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by John V - September 4, 2013 at 1:04 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Drich - September 4, 2013 at 9:50 am
RE: God Is Evil - by Faith No More - September 4, 2013 at 10:15 am
RE: God Is Evil - by Tonus - September 5, 2013 at 10:11 am
RE: God is Evil - by Bad Writer - September 3, 2013 at 1:07 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Michael Schubert - September 3, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: God is Evil - by John V - September 3, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: God is Evil - by Drich - September 3, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: God Is Evil - by Beta Ray Bill - September 4, 2013 at 3:22 am
RE: God is Evil - by Drich - September 3, 2013 at 11:28 pm

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