(September 4, 2013 at 2:55 am)bennyboy Wrote: Given that, you are begging the question.
Prove it.
(September 4, 2013 at 2:55 am)bennyboy Wrote: That's what the Mormons keep telling me. But I don't believe them, either.
If only the Mormons presented evidence, like I have.
(September 4, 2013 at 2:55 am)bennyboy Wrote: Okay, so let's take the temperature in a room, which is heated by an element which turns on and off. This element has no means by which to achieve this turning on and off-- it relies on the thermostat, which monitors the temperature, and cuts or allows power to go to the element. You are saying the thermostat is experiencing both the room and the state of the element, since it is the "second causal chain."
You're funny!
Did you not read my explanation or did it simply go over your head? Try reading it again and see if you understand that my conclusion would be that the thermostat is not experiencing precisely because it is not a part of the second causal chain.