RE: God Is Evil
September 4, 2013 at 9:50 am
(This post was last modified: September 4, 2013 at 9:51 am by Drich.)
(September 4, 2013 at 12:37 am)Esquilax Wrote: Okay, I got it; the only way you can define god's disposition as loving is to completely twist the meaning of the word into something it's not.The defination for Agape' is long standing. a lot longer and far more established than your defination of love. Which means from an objective pov, that it is you who has changed the meaning of the word Love, to not include Agape.
Quote:Again, there's this selective interpretation of the details of this story; god's the father who can't stand being around his children unless they're constantly groveling at his feet. His "great gift" that's so perfectly loving and all... is simply being around him. And you call it a sacrifice?How is it that you assume all of "us" are His children?
Quote:That's not love. That's ego.No. Love provides the same oppertunity to the Children of God as it does for the 'tares, the goats, the weeds, the chaff' (All of the things Christ compared non-children of God to) For God so loved the World, that He provided the same oppertunity in Christ for all of us.
Quote:I'm really not surprised that a christian would mix those two up, but come on; the english language puts up with enough already in the age of YOLO, let's not torture it any more.Again we are not speaking of the 'english' translation of the bible. To only look at the bible in english is a mistake, fore too much is lost assuming that the words printed in english are to be taken from a modern perspective.
(September 4, 2013 at 9:12 am)Faith No More Wrote: It's interesting because this was in the link that Drich posted for the definition of 'agape'...
Quote:This love is selfless; it gives and expects nothing in return.
That doesn't sound like what Drich is peddling. In fact, it sounds quite the opposite.
what can you possiably give God in exchange for the gift of eternal salvation?