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[Harris]

Do you believe the Quran has scientific facts in that predate the current understanding of reality that we have today?
Eg. That the earth is an oblate spheroid?

I do believe that Quran has scientific clues. I do believe that clues in Quran predate the current understanding of reality that we have today. Embryological stages as mentioned in Quran and around 1,000 other clues made me to believe so. There are clues, which supersede our present day knowledge, and those would be the clues for the coming generations.

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So what? You have just done exactly what I said is illogical about the way muslims look at verses of the quran.
You have took a verse which is saying god will be able to put every part of a mans body back together including the finger tips.
It is totally illogical and conjecture to think this is talking about unique fingerprints.
No where in the verse does it mention finger prints being unique.
If finger prints weren't identical it wouldn't make the verse false therefore the verse is not actually providing information that can be proved true or false.
I genuinely hope you will at least try to understand the point I'm trying to get across to you here.
I'm not saying it's definitely all bullshit, I'm saying from what I've seen it isn't valid information that can be proved true or false to any serious degree at all.

Once again, I repeat, Quran is not a book of science. It’s a book of commandments. After making some research we have found that whenever Quran talks about something by its name there is definitely some hint behind that name. That is the case with the fingerprints and many other similar things. In one of my previous responses, I wrote:

As a token, Quran provides some technical information in from of clues so to keep its authentication firm on its claim to be the word of God. It is not the intention of Quran to reveal intricate scientific details at all.

These clues are helpful to facilitate development of faith in modern minds. Based on established scientific facts, which fell in perfect conformity with known clues of Quran, modern thinker has clear evidences that other than God no man could have given those clues in time when intellect of man was not proficient for originating such scientifically correct hints.

Wow, absolutely mind blowing.
I've just told you that you illogically made an assumption that the quran was providing information about unique fingerprints and told you that you were wrong because it doesn't mention fingerprints are unique and provides no actual falsifiable information. It just says god will reconstruct peoples bodies including the fingertips.

Yes, it says God will reconstruct people’s body including the fingertips. This shows that for God it is not challenging to recreate all human beings with all those unique fingerprints no matter those fingertips might be trillions in number. To create something second time is not difficult than the first time. This is pointing to one more aspect that Allah will gather people in their true forms and along with their bodies bring all their deeds what those people had done in their lives.

So your response to that is to ignore that you have been proven wrong and add another statement which also is definitely not a scientific miracle.
It's obvious that when people are burned the skin is damaged, roasted. You don't need a miracle to know that you feel pain in your skin when you are burned.

First, you only think you have proven me wrong. If you have not understood what I explained then the burden is not mine. Second, what miracle you need more, read the following verse:

Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder?
Al Anbiyaa' (21)
-Verse 30-

Yes, it is obvious that when people are burned the skin is damaged, roasted. However, before people did not know that skin has pain receptors and it is responsible for pain. I wrote above that whenever Quran speaks specifically about something there is some hint behind it. God stated that he would change the roasted skins with the fresh ones so the pain of burning will continue. If there won’t be skins there won’t be pain and punishment. There is a special mention of changing of skins, which is related to continuation of punishment, and this is the clue that skins are special.