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Where is god now?
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RE: Where is god now?
(September 9, 2013 at 7:44 am)Brakeman Wrote:
(September 8, 2013 at 11:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: First of all God's plan was set before creation, so the plan has never changed, God has been revealing His plan throughout history in a progression He has determined is best...
ooowee! Thats some stretchy apologia! So god's plan didn't change because he planned to change. Because he planed to Evolve with his interactions with mankind.

Prove me wrong! You're the one saying God changes, I've not even indicated He has, nor have I indicated His plan has evolved, again that's your misguided assumption. Your assumptions are not proof of anything nor do they negate my statements. False are your above ^ statements.

Quote:I guess that works with anyone doesn't it? Obama didn't change from a pro-openness and freedom politician to a NSA loving secrets president because he had planned to do so all along. While arguable from his point of view, it is not arguable from the point of view of the observer, same as god.

From the point of view of man, god has undeniably changed.

Obama changes everyday so that he can claim he's right, the most worthless president we have ever had and now the public that voted for him is beginning to see through him. This is all I will say on this particular man. From your point of view God may seem to have changed, if however you understood the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation you would know He has never changed. So you see right here I've denied your statement and God says so also, "God says He never changes because it would go against His nature ie, who He is. God could not be omniscient if He were to change.

(September 8, 2013 at 11:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: .. God at the time of Abraham gave him the law of circumcision, He did this to set the Israelites apart from all other people, circumcision was not a practice before this time and was only practiced by Israelites until after Christ's ascent into heaven. There were no laws given to the Israelites until they left Egypt, God gave them many laws that would lead to a better relationship with Him.
Quote:So the people of the previous generation, god chose not to tell them the "laws that would lead to a better relationship with Him", why not? How fair is it to be judges without the better guidelines of what is required?
If a teacher gave homework and told the latecomers more info on its requirements, would that be fair to the earlier students? No!

There were no Israelites before Abraham, they will be judged by what they knew at the time, that is what I believe. The same goes for those before the law was handed down, but that came after Abraham. God has not let us know all about how He will judge, and it may very well be better that way.

(September 8, 2013 at 11:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: The food laws and the law of two different cloths being sown together and ect. were given to further identify the Israelites as God's people and separated from the other people ..

Quote:So all knowing god needed help identifying his people? Who was god so concerned with identifying his children? Why is god not concerned with identifying christians today? What would it matter?

NO, no, no, God didn't need to know, the omniscient God already knew. It was a sign for all other people and to the Israelites. Don't ask me why I do not know why He chose to do it that way.
How today, that's a good question that Christians need to ask themselves every day. Today God says we as Christians are to live a life that sets us apart from the world, so our belief in Christ and the Holy Spirit's guidance will help us do this, that's as long as we listen of coarse. It matters because when we live as Christians should we are a witness to the lost world and the world will see us as followers of Christ.

(September 8, 2013 at 11:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: This is why they had laws we find either mysterious or they seem not to make sense.
Enter Christ into the world, God the Father brought Him into the world through His chosen people, as He promised. God revealed His plan through Christ and the plan was for the world, everyone. So those laws that applied to the Israelites, that by the way only applied to them, food laws, circumcision and such, never had to be applied to others because Christ came to the world, for Jews and gentiles alike. All who come to God through Christ are part of His family and this is how God now separates His people from the world.
.. GC


Quote:OK, school has a set of rules for the students that has been set for years.
The school gets a new principal, who changes some of the rules. One does not say that the old rules were invalidated by the new principal's arrival, nor does one say that the changed rules weren't changed.

God has not been replaced nor has He changed the rules, for those who do not accept God's completed plan... well let's just say they will be judged by the law and they will become their own sacrifice.


Quote:By the way, "God's people are now separated from the rest of the world by education reason and derision."

I know many well educated Christians, from scientist and nuclear engineers to teachers and professors ect. All the Christians I know are very reasonable people, and ridicule only makes the person doing the ridiculing look foolish. So as I see it your idea of separation for Christians is a worldly view that just doesn't hold water.

Smile GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Messages In This Thread
Where is god now? - by Brakeman - September 4, 2013 at 7:09 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Drich - September 4, 2013 at 7:46 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Brakeman - September 4, 2013 at 8:01 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Drich - September 4, 2013 at 8:53 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Faith No More - September 4, 2013 at 8:55 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Drich - September 4, 2013 at 9:21 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Faith No More - September 4, 2013 at 9:25 am
RE: Where is god now? - by themonkeyman - September 4, 2013 at 12:56 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by Esquilax - September 4, 2013 at 8:59 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Drich - September 4, 2013 at 9:27 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Faith No More - September 4, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Drich - September 4, 2013 at 10:13 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Faith No More - September 4, 2013 at 10:17 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Brakeman - September 4, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by Brakeman - September 4, 2013 at 12:51 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by Drich - September 4, 2013 at 10:56 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by Brakeman - September 5, 2013 at 7:22 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Drich - September 5, 2013 at 10:23 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Faith No More - September 4, 2013 at 8:02 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Crossless1 - September 4, 2013 at 8:08 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Godschild - September 6, 2013 at 10:57 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by themonkeyman - September 4, 2013 at 8:26 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Minimalist - September 4, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 4, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by max-greece - September 5, 2013 at 10:38 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Drich - September 5, 2013 at 10:43 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Captain Colostomy - September 5, 2013 at 10:47 am
RE: Where is god now? - by max-greece - September 5, 2013 at 10:45 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Drich - September 5, 2013 at 11:23 am
RE: Where is god now? - by max-greece - September 5, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Drich - September 6, 2013 at 12:34 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by max-greece - September 6, 2013 at 12:44 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by Drich - September 8, 2013 at 2:51 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Fidel_Castronaut - September 8, 2013 at 5:01 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Drich - September 8, 2013 at 12:57 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by Ryantology - September 9, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Silver - September 9, 2013 at 1:30 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Drich - September 9, 2013 at 10:18 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Minimalist - September 5, 2013 at 11:47 am
RE: Where is god now? - by NoraBrimstone - September 6, 2013 at 11:59 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Faith No More - September 6, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by ronedee - September 6, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by Fidel_Castronaut - September 7, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by Minimalist - September 6, 2013 at 11:13 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by max-greece - September 7, 2013 at 6:46 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Godschild - September 7, 2013 at 10:33 am
RE: Where is god now? - by max-greece - September 7, 2013 at 10:39 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Godschild - September 7, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Brakeman - September 7, 2013 at 10:36 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by Godschild - September 8, 2013 at 12:51 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Brakeman - September 8, 2013 at 11:34 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Godschild - September 8, 2013 at 11:55 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by Brakeman - September 9, 2013 at 7:44 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Godschild - September 9, 2013 at 8:58 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by Brakeman - September 10, 2013 at 7:33 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Esquilax - September 10, 2013 at 8:05 am
RE: Where is god now? - by max-greece - September 8, 2013 at 5:31 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Minimalist - September 7, 2013 at 10:58 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Godschild - September 7, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Ryantology - September 7, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Minimalist - September 7, 2013 at 5:13 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 8, 2013 at 2:21 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by Captain Colostomy - September 9, 2013 at 7:57 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Minimalist - September 8, 2013 at 3:33 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by max-greece - September 9, 2013 at 1:20 am
RE: Where is god now? - by max-greece - September 9, 2013 at 10:49 am
RE: Where is god now? - by Drich - September 9, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by Minimalist - September 9, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: Where is god now? - by KichigaiNeko - September 10, 2013 at 9:30 am

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