RE: Why does god want to cut off women's hands?
September 10, 2013 at 8:06 am
(This post was last modified: September 10, 2013 at 8:27 am by John V.)
(September 9, 2013 at 9:09 pm)pocaracas Wrote: How does the bible know all that?God told people and they wrote it down.
(September 9, 2013 at 1:30 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: JohnV, everything on this earth has self awareness to an extent.Uh, he can create a universe. We can't.
Let's assume for sake of argument that you're right, god exists, and god created the system now in place.
How the fuck can you say he has superior intellect in any way?
Quote:For example. The food chain. Coulda just done with algae and not had to have animals ripping each other to pieces. They're self aware too, after all. As a self aware being I have the capacity to identify that very fact and allocate those rights accordingly, apparently making me more moral than your god.OK, when you create a food chain, show it to us and we'll compare the two.
(September 9, 2013 at 1:50 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I'm going to go ahead and ask you to consider my entire position when you comment on it, not just the bit in the quote you've taken from me. In this case, the bit about societal health and the good of everyone, not just individuals.What about it?
Quote:And?And so it's just your opinion. Your opinion is noted.
Quote:Ah, I should have known you wouldn't be familiar with this concept: it's called "learning," and it's something that most functioning humans- and groups of humans- are capable of doing to correct past mistakes. In this case, you've got a bunch of slave owners being less empathetic (and using your bible to justify themselves in that. Just think about that: their position was correct because god said it was okay, apparently.) and a larger group of people being more empathetic in the form of those who are against slavery.Ad populum fallacy.
Quote:I didn't say they didn't function.You said that "a functioning society benefits all of its members." You don't seem to think that slave-owning society benefits all of its members. Logical conclusion: your position is that slave-owning societies weren't functioning.
Quote:I rather think I'm also painting the god that would allow that as evil and deserving of judgment,So judge him.
Quote:you fucking rape apologist.Again, I'm attempting to understand other times and cultures without your holier-than-them attitude.
Quote:Aren't you one of those fucking "objective morality" dudes, though?No, I'm on record multiple times as believing that all morality is ultimately subjective. You're the one setting yourself up as judge of other cultures.