Differing Interpretations on Yahweh's Morality and Capabilities

[Drich]

It doesn't seem to have crossed your mind that when we ask you for evidence (miracles as defined by you) you refuse to oblige.

This is what tonus ment about the intellegent trying to teach the obstainent. I provided you example after example of Miricals performed in my Life; My Trip to Hell, My messenger/message account, my contraction of HIV/my miraculous recovery, my wife's 10 year 250 dollar aday addiction to Herion, her "flipped a switch off" non typical recovery, My business, and how it was established, The 25K dollar loan that I got from a stranger that I had only met once before he offered an intrest free loan, and on and on and on... Then I have told you that all of these things are evidence in the full fillment of the promises God makes in the bible. That these things were not just offered to me. they are offered to anyone who will humble himself and A/S/K as out lined in Luke 11.

You insist that such a thing is not necessary to prove Christ.

Then, you say things like this, you claim they exist, you even went so far as to say the purpose of them is to prove Christ.

Ok, lets start over.
Christ came to offer a complete form of attonement. In order to do this He had to 'complete the Law.' To Complete the Law He needed to established that He was God, as God can only Compete the Law. To do this He needed to show the He weilded the Power of God. Showing dominance over nature (Calming the storm, water to wine, feeding the 5000, walking on water) Dominance over Death, (Raising the Dead, Raising Himself from the Dead) Dominance over man/health In the healings He performed. Dominance over Satan, as He was able to cast out demons. All of these things established Christ as one who weilds the power and Authority of God. As such He is able shift the focous of righteousness from adhearing to the law, to attonement. Which is what He did.

This subsequently is also the reason the Pharisees who were condemned for comitting Blaspheme of the Holy Spirit said He did His works Not by the Power of the Holy Spirit, but by the power given to Him by satan. They were trying to dismiss all that He did so they would not have to accept the evidence given to them in all that they saw Him do.

Then you should have no problem when we ask you to produce one, or present evidence of one! But...no. Sadly, you dismiss our requests as being unnecessary.

What is the difference between being obstinate and stupid? How do I tell the difference? From My POV I have been litterally saying that 'we' (Christians) are not the mirical workers. we are the ones who have the miricals performed in our lives. That God the Holy Spirit is the one who has provided these miricals. I go on to say that Jesus in Luke 11 promises us this very same Holy Spirit that has performed said miricals in the Life of Christ and the Apstoles, I even give you examples of miricals performed in my own life (All attributed to the Holy Spirit) And then I tell you the same gift given to me is also offered to each and every one of you, all you have to do is A/S/K as outlined in Luke 11. But what do you here? what you you see? what do you understand?

That I am supposed to be some sort of apstole that can do magic tricks for you and that I will not because of (X) reason you believe.

Again I am only a begger who has found a person giving out bread. I am not the one who bakes it. If you want bread A/S/K as outlined and Luke 11.

Instead, you tell us A/S/K is where we'll find our proof.

You don't understand how this discredits your ability to think critically?

Have you not even taken the time to understand the fondation of what is being discussed here? Or do you just take what I have said and tried to make it fit your backwards understanding of Christianity?

The problem with atheist who have spent any time in church , believe that they have a complete understanding of Christianity. When if fact at best they have a sunday school understanding of their specific brand of christianity, and little to no understanding of biblical Christianity, yet they are convinced that they know everything there is to know and ignore 1/2 of what is being said.

A reasonable person gets this Drich.

And an intelectually honest person takes the time to understand the topic of discussion before he makes a counter point.