RE: Pleasure and Joy
September 12, 2013 at 5:24 pm
(This post was last modified: September 12, 2013 at 5:30 pm by paulpablo.)
Quote:I am not guessing. I am giving you logical reasons. I already mentioned that I don’t have any type of communication with God. I communicate with God only through the text of Quran.
When you read a statement from the quran and think it predicts finger prints when it does NOT mention even the word unique or anything that could be another word for unique and it does not even claim to be making a prediction about anything then you definitely most certainly ARE guessing.
The word guess means
Quote:Estimate or suppose (something) without sufficient information to be sure of being correct.
This is the quote of the quran.
Quote:Nay, We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers.
Not a mention of the word unique, not a mention of the word prints, not a mention of anything to do with fingerprints uniqueness or anything of the sort.
Now tell me how you know god is telling you in this verse information regarding finger prints.
Are you guessing?
If not please let me know how you know for sure how this verse is telling you about fingerprints.
And don't just use one word answers like LOGIC or REASONING.
I'll give you an example, if I was a policeman and doing an investigation into a murder and the judge asked me why I thought the clues pointed to the suspect I had arrested I wouldn't just say LOGIC or REASONING would I?
I'd have to put up some good arguments such as CCTV footage, forensic evidence, non bias witnesses and so on.
I already am almost certain that you are guessing as I'm not blind or illiterate, I can read the verse and have a good understanding of english enough to know there is no information here or even clues about fingerprints,
AND lets say god does just like to give very vague clues about fingerprints in ancient texts you are still GUESSING what the clue is telling you.
Because after you sat down and thought to yourself "this text must be telling me about fingerprints" god didn't come down and congratulate you on getting it right did he? There were no signs that you are right or correct in your guess work.
Bare in mind also that finger tips were known for having an intricate shape before Islam, Babylonians used fingerprints so did the Chinese.
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