(September 16, 2013 at 1:51 pm)Zone Wrote:(September 16, 2013 at 1:41 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: That's idiotic. Fundamentalist Atheist? I'm also a fundamentalist in not believing in Santa Claus. As though we have to find some sort of middle ground between us and them. The phrase New Atheists also drives me crazy. The only thing new about them is that they actually publicly speak about what they believe. OMG how outrageous! Atheists shouldn't be afforded the same opportunity as say, everyone else.
We're not supposed to believe anything as we're not meant to be following a religion or a dogma. We're just not accepting what all these different religions are trying to sell to us. It's a neutral position and we aren't trying to offer something to anyone. If you do anything else or try to proselytize atheism it may as well be a religion at that point.
Agree
atheism is not a belief system, it is a challenge to belief systems that require you accept without logical or scientific explanation that which is not provable. Claims can be made all day and I never once made any claim of belief in anything but ones lack of proof in their own claim of belief.
I will gladly believe in god if he presents himself in the "flesh" to me and answers for actions that no sentient being should accept as "ok"... short of that I don't see how any religious person will convince an actual atheist...not the fundie ones that are being referred to in this thread.
I don't want to fight for a person to believe others are wrong. I want to discuss and debate that which is apparent and not so apparent based on what we can see, touch, taste, smell, etc... things we can use experiment and argument to determine. NOT blindness in faithful duties to imaginary gods.
