(September 18, 2013 at 8:47 am)Texas Sailor Wrote: The free-part seems to be something that's giving you a hard time. Everybody has different barriers that prevent them from processing information the same way. One's contemplation of a concept either occurs to them as something worth thinking about, or it doesn't. The factors that give this concept credence to the individual are beyond the individual's control, and do not originate in the conscious mind which is where one's sense of self comes from.
You are your conscious mind and that's what you use to decide whatever it is you decide under influence of whatever is influencing you. You can't control the influences only your reaction toward them. In some instances it may take some effort to nullify a reaction toward a certain influence that's self restraint. That's an important trait to master there, like the Eastern religions teach but you don't need the supernatural to do this of course.
Quote:The concept occurs to your consciousness (You did not choose to think it)
You choose the reaction toward it. You may be getting the stimulus to punch your boss in the face or grab a fit woman's ass but you decide to bypass it.
Quote:Your subconscious determines your position on the concept (This occurs apart from your conscious mind being aware of it)
It just feeds you with a list of suggestions. You decide what to do with it.
Quote:Your subconscious mind is molded by genetics, environment, exposure to specific social behavior, and life experiences. (You had no control over any of these defining factors which molded your subconscious)
Molded not determined, it's all very interactive. It's like modifying your characters stats using experience points in an RPG game.
Quote:Your conscious mind/sense of self considers it "free" to do as it wishes. Yet, everything that informs it is, has been, and will forever be outside of your conscious mind's control at that moment.
Yes but it doesn't follow that you're determined by any of this only influenced by it.
Quote:At each moment, your behavior is determined by what you are at that moment, and you could not be any different or you would be in a different universe! [quote]
I don't think there are any other universes we can be in there is just the one and we're in it.
[quote]The phenomena of reflection does not affirm its offspring to be born from a free and unrestricted source. It is an illusion.
No it isn't.