(September 18, 2013 at 8:27 am)Zone Wrote: We could if we wanted to?That statement is non-sensical. Give an example of that occuring. One choosing something different because they wanted to. That is mere post-hoc conjecture. To say that you could have done differently is no different than saying you could have existed in a different universe.
(September 18, 2013 at 8:27 am)Zone Wrote: Just say you're the origin you exist don't you?Do you refer to your self, are your white blood cells the thing you have in mind, or is it a specific channel of information that occurs in consciousness? If they stopped performing, and you developped bone-marrow cancer, would your conscious sense of self be responsible? No, you would be a victem. But those white blood-cells are you, right? So, to say that the products of your subconscious are examples of free decisions made by YOU, then you are guilty of decieving yourself. Stop at that point, and re-examine what you mean when you refer to YOU, and be honest about the actual source of the thoughts that occur to it.
Your subconsciousness is you. Yes, this is a psychological fact. Your kidney's are you as well. Another fact. But neither of these facts assist in anyway when mulling over the concept of free-will which resides in consciousness.
