(September 19, 2013 at 2:16 pm)John V Wrote:Yes but since We can't validate gods methodology of sin then why should we use sin as a moral standard as opposed to moral utilitarianism, which is demonstratable and exterior in its methodology. To farther prove this morality superior we should look no farther then the laws of the world. You take any country that has a legal system based in moral utilitarianism like say Canada and compare that say Saudi Arabia where they have a sin based system and what do we see? In Canada you have a world leading education system, universal heath care and a world leader in technology. In Saudi Arabia you have a nation that is technologically backwards that still condones the death penalty for things like adultery. Which do you prefer to live in?(September 19, 2013 at 2:11 pm)Stimbo Wrote: How can a comparison between what you said and its implications by way of a commentary observation be intellectually dishonest?Because the supposed implications do not necessarily follow. You presumably agree that it's acceptable for different rules to apply to children v. adults, yet you presumably aren't a racist, so no, racism isn't an implication of what I said. Unless you are a racist, or think 5-year-olds should be able to drink alcohol.
(September 19, 2013 at 2:15 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Police and judges are subject to the same rules as they enforce and interpret. Another bad comparison.Yes, it's of limited use, but it's closer to the point than yours was.
Quote:I agree, but you have it backwards. Above, you compared a sports car to a bike, and state that they are not the same vehicle class, so they should not be held to the same standards, which I find agreeable. What I don't find agreeable is your notion that this justifies the sports car's inability to outpace the bike. You are insisting that the inferior class should be held to higher standards than the superior class, which is what makes no sense to me. It's insane. It's like punishing a dog for not acting like a human.No, I haven't assessed the standards and determined that one is higher or lower than another. Also note that in the end you'll be held to your own standard. Isn't that reasonable?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
