RE: Evolution Trumps Creationism
September 25, 2013 at 5:30 pm
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2013 at 5:38 pm by Drich.)
(September 25, 2013 at 11:49 am)Zazzy Wrote:Are these not your words?(September 25, 2013 at 10:49 am)Drich Wrote: Zazzy the science teacher who taught at a university who originally represented him/herself as an evolutionary biologist.I represented myself as I am. Accusing me of lying is just weird, and it doesn't make me angry- it just makes me go looking for more reasonable conversationalists.
I see from reading through your other threads that this is your MO- evade, attack, accuse, sneer, deny, and insult. You present as someone who feels constantly mistreated, while you mistreat those around you.
If you ever learn how to have a civil conversation, let me know. And good luck with this idea of yours.
Zazzy Wrote:I'm an evolutionary biologist by trade,
According to the last post on page 3 these are indeed your words. Then you tell me your a high school science teacher on post 4 page 11.
The term by trade means as a profession. To say you are 'x' by trade means your primary responsiablity is 'x' and not grading papers, and cleaning lab stations for the next class. Even if evolutionary biology was all you taught it still does not make you an evolutionary biologist 'by trade.' It makes you a teacher by trade.
Again absolutly nothing wrong with being a teacher as far as this discussion goes. For that matter there is nothing wrong with being caught in a lie, as far as this discussion goes. I am perfectly willing to forget the whole thing so long as you are and do not insist that I must adopt your page 3 persona.
If it makes you feel any better I started out as a mechanic 'by trade.' Who couldn't read or write above a 4th grade level after graduating high school. I went to a year of trade school, and my formal training stopped there...
So, job titles aside if you wish to proceed then ask your next question. If not then I do understand.
(September 25, 2013 at 11:58 am)Esquilax Wrote: More than that, what was the point of having Adam and Eve in the garden, created from nothing, if evolution was already spitting out people on the other side of the fence?Adam and Eve were created with In The seven days of creation. Who knows how much time elapsed between their creation by God, and when evolution finally caught up.
Oh right, apologetics only have to make sense regarding one problem at a time...
(September 25, 2013 at 1:00 pm)Zazzy Wrote:4) to show you that you are not in a position to identify evidence when it is presented. For if you can not define what you are looking for, then it stands to reason your not really looking to accept anything.(September 25, 2013 at 12:55 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: He apparently doesn't *want* to understand. Many of us have gone around and around on the very same issue. It's been explained to him.There seem to be 3 options for how to read this behavior:
When I asked him for evidence, it went a bit like this.
"Evidence?"
"What kind of evidence would you like to see?"
"The kind the you possess that supports your claim."
*crickets*
1.) Laziness. He wants you to tell him what the evidence is so he doesn't have to go looking for it.
2.) Conscious denial of the fact that he knows very well what evidence is and what it would look like, but he knows it isn't out there and he doesn't want to admit it.
3.) He's just messing with you.
I wonder which is correct?
Your afraid to define said evidence because if it were presented, then you would have to concede. As it stands you can simply move the goal posts no matter what is presented.