RE: Lingvogeometry
September 26, 2013 at 2:25 pm
(This post was last modified: September 26, 2013 at 3:04 pm by Monolens.)
(September 24, 2013 at 6:15 pm)genkaus Wrote: I think you are reaching for conclusions way beyond what available evidence implies.
First of all, I see no analysis of any language structure.
The method and the example of reasoning is given in my publication "Bit from it or it from bit"
(September 24, 2013 at 6:15 pm)genkaus Wrote: Secondly, there may be no actual connection between the cow-horns and the moon. An equally valid hypothesis is that in the ancient agricultural societies cows were one of the few domesticated animals which were the source of food and labor. Thus they became associated with the idea of a "provider" and therefore "divine". Nothing to do with moon at all.
There is a bunch of folkloric refranes in any culture where the cow is identified as the moon. I will give Russian and you can find same English for sure:
White-headed cow in the doorway watching.
The bull in the yard - the horns on the wall.
Bald bull looks through the gate.
Without the head, and with horns.
To be born with horns, then they lose.
All these about the moon.
As the reference, you can read Rig-Veda – the ancient text known to humanity and you will see many allegories, where the moon is fully recognizable.
I will give short example:
Moving at morning like two chr-borne heroes, like to a pair of goats ye come electing;
Like two fair dames embellishing their bodies, like a wise married pair among the people.
Like to a pair of horns come first to usward, like to a pair of hoofs with rapid motion;
Come like two Cakavas in the grey of morning, come like two chariot wheels at dawn, ye Mighty.
Bear us across the rivers like two vessels, save us as ye were yokes, naves, spokes and fellies.
Be like two dogs that injure not our bodies; preserve us, like two crutches, that we fall not.
Like two winds ageing not, two confluent rivers, come with quick vision like two eyes before us.
Come like two hands most helpful to the body, and guide us like two feet to what is precious.
Even as two lips that with the mouth speak honey, even as two breasts that nourish our existence,
Like the two nostrils that protect our being, be to us as our ears that hear distinctly.
Goats (horned animals), horns, wheels, vessels, yokes, naves, spokes, fellies, eyes, hands, feet, lips, breasts, nostrils, ears.
All this objects can be logically connected only on one possible basis – The Moon.
Because this is the only object in the sky with shapes thet can be presented as a semicircle and circle at the same time. And it can be observed by any man without using special tools.
I can give you another nice example:
What Americans do in Thanksgiving Day?
They break the wishbone. The tradition of breaking the wishbone comes from Europe, and is thousands of years older.
Look at this type of bird's bone. Geometrically its shape correlates with the shape of horns and other above noted objects. This is the angle.
By the way, the Hebrew word “karan”, which is used in the Bible for describing the Mosses state when he left the god on the Zion mounting. This word means “angle”, “beam”, “horn”.
That is why the Mosses is portrayed with horns on his head:
It is also noticeable that “karan” phonetically corresponds with Koran - well known holy book of people those symbol is the crescent itself.
Also the crescent is represented in Bible as the head-stuff which god told to Mosses to craft for the costume of archpriest Aaron.
(September 24, 2013 at 6:15 pm)genkaus Wrote: Regardless, even if your hypothesis was true, the concept of god has developed way beyond that idea. Which means whatever the ancient civilizations regarded as god or gods is no longer applicable today. Therefore, arguing against an outdated notion of god would not prove the "atheistic idea".
Does the Bible give "an outdated notion of god"?
(September 25, 2013 at 1:28 am)max-greece Wrote: Its possible you have reasons from your research which you haven't yet shared but these seem to be a great many assumptions in what you have presented thus far. Take, for example:
"For example, Jesus resurrection is the allegory of every month phenomenon of “dying moon”. Before appear in form of young crescent the moon is not visible in the sky for 3 days."
The general explanation I have seen for this myth is that it is based on the seasonal die of crops in winter that magically come back in the spring (the time of Jesus' resurrection).
This is in-line with the Jewish passover celebration at the same time. When Jews move to the unleavened bread bit they are supposed to clean out their houses of all the old food (leavened bread from last year) and, after the passover move back to the normal diet but only on this year's foods.
Having said that the Jewish calendar is a lunar one.
There are many territories in the world where winter never comes and climate never changes from one season to another. In addition, due to archeological investigations the humanity came especially from that places.
The Easter like holydays are common to all territories in the world.
And as it was correctly noted, the date of Easter is calculated by Jewish lunar calendar. They were waiting for first new moon after spring Equinox.
It was 13th new moon of lunar year and it was also first new moon of coming year. That is why Jesus is called first and last in the Bible – Alpha and Omega.
The tradition with bread can be also connected with another allegory of Jesus represented in the Bible: The bread of heaven.
The bread as allegory of Jesus-moon is widely used due to the form of bread which was originally cooked by ancient people. It was round.
At the picture below, you can see Jesus’s symbols. The cup and the bread represent crescent like semicircle shape. 12 Apostols symbolize 12 lunar months and the Jesus symbolized 13th month. And New Year (ear)
(September 25, 2013 at 3:55 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: The major flaw in your, um, thesis is that atheism needs to be "proven" in the first place. Atheism is a default stance taken when no evidence of any gods has ever been shown to exist. Furthermore, the fact that many gods have been invented by man's imagination throughout history means that unless someone can show evidence of the Judeo-Christian god, then most likely it is yet another imaginary god which was invented by man. At any rate, anyone claiming a god's existence must show proof, not the atheist who doesn't believe in it.
The thesis of proving the atheistic idea is used to present the opening within the atheistic forum. In deed the idea is much wider and touches verity of science directions and human history facts.
The moon is the key object which our biocomputers have started to use for programming itself. It is the 1 and 0 which we used to program the computers developed by us.
* left is the symbols used in Kannada – one of the ancient scripts in the world.
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