RE: Something I want you to imagine
September 27, 2013 at 8:44 pm
(This post was last modified: September 27, 2013 at 8:47 pm by Drich.)
(September 25, 2013 at 1:09 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:(September 25, 2013 at 12:52 am)Drich Wrote: If using the bible is considered to be circular logic in the proof of God, then how can it then be a legitimate source to disprove God?Sigh the bible is the "god claim" and when said claim has contradicting contained with in itself that means that it is not true in it's entirety.
Wouldn't logic dictate that if the bible could be used to disprove God, then that very bible could then also be a viable point of reference to prove God as well??? Do you really want to open a can of worms your atheist brothers work so hard to keep closed?
Infact that is the reason using the bible to prove your claim of god is circular. When you do that, you use the claim to prove the claim. So no logic doesn't dictate that the bible can not be used to disprove the claim. Let me explain it like this, say I write a true crime story, and in chapter three I say the killer is white and in chapter 5 I say he is black. Now If I say it is true regardless because it is a true crime that is circular logic, however when discovers that in one chapter I say he is white, and another he is black, then I obviously misrepresenting the truth in either chapter 3 or 5 or both.
Then all you must do is provide a circular claim. And stand behind it. Meaning if you provide a claim and I disprove that it is indeed circular then you must yield and acknowledge the authority of the bible.
That said if you do so thing as childish as post a link to the skeptics annotated bible, then I too will have the option to post a link to the skeptics an orated bible Answered. And you will have to concede this point.
So if you really want to play this game you better choose your 'circular claim' carefully.
(September 25, 2013 at 7:29 am)Rahul Wrote:(September 25, 2013 at 12:15 am)Drich Wrote: Can you prove your assertion or are we to simply take what you say on faith?
I don't have to prove anything. I'm not saying something exists. You are. Prove this or we fall back to the default position.
Atheism.
You: "I have an invisible dragon in my garage!"
Me: "No, you don't."
You: "Can you prove I don't or should the entire world take your assertion on faith?"
Motherfucker, please.
You made the claim there is no sin. When In reality sin is a well known and accepted term in the modern English lexicon. Therefore you must provide proof that the term does not exist.
(September 26, 2013 at 7:43 am)Faith No More Wrote:What makes you think everything science has provided is not proof of God?(September 26, 2013 at 7:35 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Not true. God has already provided you with all the evidence you need.
No, he hasn't. Otherwise, there wouldn't be atheists. Or are you going to take the indefensible position that atheists simply refuse to acknowledge the evidence?