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Lingvogeometry
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RE: Lingvogeometry
(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: Please prove with Rig-Veda text that Asvins are identified as sunset and sunrise.

That sounds like long and boring work - so I'm not gonna do that.
I will, however, point you to wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashvins. Here you can find a list of references to Ashvins within the Rigveda. You can wade through that if you want.

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: Sure they don’t Smile
But there is strong logic connection:
Rabbit is connected to the moon in many traditions.
The day of celebration of Easter is calculated by moon calendar.
The symbol of Easter is rabbit.
The Jesus and 12 Apostols is the allegory for 13 lunar months.
Jesus symbol is fish, which also can be read as rabbit.

Jesus name is Messiah, which is same to “mesyac” – the name of moon in Russian.

More than enough for smart person to understand that moon rabbit and Easter rabbit is the same rabbit.

Except, the reason rabbit is chosen as Easter symbol is because of its fertility and its association with springtime. The long, convoluted association between the moon rabbit and Easter rabbit doesn't work if there is a much simpler factual explanation for the latter.

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: And by the way. Do you know that Jesus was pictured as the crescent in many ancient graphics? Check this out:

Then solve small puzzle:
Lady with young jesus = lady with young crescent moon
Lady with young can be reduced.
Jesus = moon.
Simple.

And how do you intend to prove the first statement?

Sun, moon and stars are very common motifs in many ancient graphics. Doesn't mean they are hidden allegories for Jesus.

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: If I wanted to inform you with existing explanation I would not call it opening, discovery, finding etc. At the moment this two cases are not connected together. And this is a new theory which is now being tested and proved.

An already existing simple explanation for Easter rabbit implies there is no connection to the moon rabbit - thus making your "discovery" of a connection incorrect.

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: The sound “s” is transformed to “c”, “ch”, “sh” and even “t” in many cognate languages. No matter how you will say to Russian “mesyac” or “mesyas” it will be correctly understood.
Again you can remind yourself similar examples and see the predicted correlation.
MoSQue – the temple of lunar gays Muslims.
MoSCow – the city where lots of Christian temples have a crescent on its symbolic:

MoSKon - μόσχον – the bull in greek language
Remember Bible Golden calf story? This bull is called MaSeHa in Hebrew.
MoSQuitos – the creature which spends most of his lifetime in the water. Remember Moses who is “taken from the water” according to Bible?
Again coincidences? Not too many?

Not even a coincidence. The given examples all have different roots and little connection to each-other. Mosque is a derivative of Masjid. Moscow is named after a river - nothing to do with crescents or temples. And mosquito derives from *mu - "fly". Just because you can draw long convoluted connections between them doesn't mean there are any.

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: I talk about many issues coincidental on same basis. Not one or two.

Except, you haven't established the same "basis".

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: So what is the form of below diadem? Where do you see the circle?
[Image: svad-diadem.jpg]

Try looking from the top.

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: It is same as to nimbus (halo). If I would ask you what form it is, I’m sure you will answer it is round. But in 99% of images we do not see it is fully round. We only see crescent around the head. Only our imagination makes it round.
As a specialist in marketing, I will tell you. It’s not what you look at that matters, it’s what you see.

You look at “circular” nimbus, but you see semicircle crescent. And this is very very important if you want to understand what is religion really about.

Then that should be sufficient explanation. The artists don't draw crescents as symbols for divine - they attempt to draw halos which look like crescents from certain angle which, over time, have come to be misrepresented as crescents in actuality.


(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: And what is that difference in terms of geometry?

One a circle minus half the circle. The other is a circle minus another circle.

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: As you probably know that day and night, evening and morning are sun related developments. At least on the Earth. So I understand this chapter as a creation of the SUN.

In this chapter god created plants, which as I hope you understand cannot exist without sunlight and everyday day to night change.
And now comes the trick I told you. God creates sun and moon. So the sun is created second time now. It is made by later re-righters who understood that if they leave text as it was, the sun is already created, but the moon is not.
It’s only possible when God itself is the moon which created everything due to story.

Loth as I am t defend the bible in any form, but here it is your or my knowledge that matters, but that of those who wrote the stuff.

An equally valid interpretation would be that the light source of the first day was neither sun nor moon nor stars. It was something else altogether that was divided into sun, moon and stars on fourth day. Which means god did not create the sun a second time.

Even if the first light did refer to the sun, the obvious conclusion would be that the sun was formed on the first day, then on the fourth, that light was divided into sun, stars and moon and thus sun was "recreated". What is not the solution here is that god was the moon to begin with. Sorry, nothing here indicates that the bible is all about the moon from the start.

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: I can see that you misunderstood the methodic. It was written that words will come to given meanings in etymology OR semantic. Not AND.
So if the shape of given object corresponds to given examples then the rule is confirmed.
The shape of crane is similar to the shape of crescent

I can see that you are moving the goalposts. The shape of the crane in flight does not figure in how it is named or the basic meaning of that name - so it does not qualify in etymology OR semantic.


(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: By the way, do you remember how the Holy Spirit was appeared in Bible? In form of pigeon. You know why?
Same story. It has a shape similar to the shape of god – crescent.

Doves have been a symbol of purity due to their color and peaceful nature for quite a long time. That has nothing to do with the incidental shape of their wings. Otherwise, every bird out there would be similarly considered to symbolize the divine.


(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: I did not say that. I just pointed your attention to the fact that words crown and crane have similar structure and objects they name have similar shape.

Again, meaningless. A lot of other birds have crowns as well. That one of them happens to be a subspecies of the type whose name somewhat sounds like "crown" signifies nothing.

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: So cranes were related to goddess as well as fish. Fish is a symbol of Jesus also. “Crane/fish” religion transformed to lunar Islam. So who is the Jesus? It is lunar deity. Why fish? Same source as rabbit. Ancient people were seeing the shape of fish on the moon. That is why this association occurred.

So there is a legend of moon-fish now? That's the first I'm hearing of it.

I'm assuming that in the pre-Islamic pantheon, different gods were associated with different animals. If so, finding one associated with crane/fish is no big deal.
And I understand Jesus is associated with fish because a lot of his disciples were fishermen and one of his miracles featured fish in a big way.
Concluding a universal theme of divinity associated with crane/fish is a stretch to begin with. Concluding "god is moon" from this is a whole different level of leaping.

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: Crescent was in my list. And “crescent” comes from “grow”.

Not the list you gave here.
Regardless, two words coming from the same root is not sufficient to prove your case. The words in your list must serve as the source.


(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: Yes! It is very simple. The name of process as we know it was taken from the moon characteristic - it grows!
GRoW = KoRoWa (cow)

Is *ghre the root of Korowa? Can you provide evidence for this?

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: I did not say that. I just showed that same phonetic structure words (crescent and green) have same basis in terms of etymology. I would never pay attention to this coincidence, but when there are tons of same “coincidences” it is becoming the rule that we cannot ignore.

Phonetically similar words having a common etymological basis is to be expected. That's not a coincidence, that's how language works. If two words come form the same root, then they'll sound similar.

What your hypothesis seeks to establish is that that root - in etymology or meaning - would have one among your given list. And it doesn't.


(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: May be this can show you that “cut” comes very right.
CuT is phonetically close to GoD
Ukrainian “KuT” means “angle”
English “GooD” in Russian is “KoRoSHiy” which is “coincidently” close to “Crist/crescent”
Russian “KiT” is the type of fish, which is called “whale” in English. Compare it to “well” and “bull”
Russian “GoD” means “year”. Compare it to “ear” from below example.
Ukrainian “rock” means “year” while in English it means “stone” (the moon is the stone)

Wow, that's a great deal of running around in circles. Cutting through the chase, you are supposed to show a meaningful relation between god and cut. Aside from saying they are phonetically similar - they aren't- you haven't given me anything.

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: And what is the symbol of rock music? Right! Horned hand.
Did you know that this horned hand is the symbol of god in Christian and Buddhist tradition?
Jesus itself shows this sign on many pics. As well as Buddha. Interesting, isn’t it?

Below picture is not Photoshop. It is real picture from Russian Orthodox Church.
They pray to this symbol and count it as the symbol of Jesus.

Except, that is not a symbol for god in the Buddhist tradition. That hand gesture is one of the many Mudras - hand gestures - prevalent in Asian religions. You can find many other examples of statues with different hand gestures.

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: And the form of ear as well as for of handle is? Crescent like, semicircular. Again coincidence?

Not even a coincidence. The shape of a handle isn't necessarily semicircular.

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: And most eared animal is believed to be the god in one of the biggest world cultures. Coincidence?

Again, not even a coincidence. In the Hindu mythological pantheon you'll find all sorts of animal gods - monkeys, snakes, horses, lions and so on. Having an elephant in the ranks is not exceptional.

(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: In modern world they are accessories. In ancient times nothing was done without symbolizing. It was our way of thinking.
The earrings are circular sure. But you never see full circle. You see only crescent. I told you before. It does not matter what you are looking at, but what you see matters.

You do realize that you are ignoring a lot of actual evidence, don't you? The given earring are not and were not the only shapes used. So no, they don't always look like crescents. Thus, the conclusion of association with the crescent is invalid. Further, the crescent itself is a separate symbol and it signifies something else altogether.


(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: Please give correct hieroglyph word. I will check it.

Sorry. I have no idea what that looks like.


(September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am)Monolens Wrote: Just forgot one thing. What is the main characteristic of rabbit? Its ears!
Again god’s animal main feature is ears.
Next time when you will say somebody “Happy New Year” remember that in deed you say “Happy new ear” and congratulate person with first moon of new year Wink

How did you get to this ridiculous conclusion?

Wait. Let me guess.

God is moon. Moon is associated with rabbit. Therefore rabbit is god's animal. And its main characteristic is its ears.

You know, the official term for this is "Insane Troll Logic".

To start with, we're discussing the significance of "ear" in Sanskrit and there ears are not regarded as the main characteristic of rabbits. Secondly, the other god's animals - fish, crane, cows etc. do not have significant ears.
Thirdly, how exactly is the phonetic similarity of year and ear relevant?
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Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 24, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Ryantology - September 24, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 24, 2013 at 3:00 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 24, 2013 at 3:32 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by max-greece - September 25, 2013 at 1:28 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by CapnAwesome - September 24, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 24, 2013 at 6:15 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 26, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 27, 2013 at 6:02 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 27, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 27, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 27, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 28, 2013 at 1:06 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - September 28, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 28, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 28, 2013 at 9:15 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 28, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 29, 2013 at 4:14 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 29, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 30, 2013 at 2:13 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 28, 2013 at 8:02 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - September 24, 2013 at 6:30 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Doubting Thomas - September 25, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by max-greece - September 26, 2013 at 3:26 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by gall - September 27, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Walking Void - September 27, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 27, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by MindForgedManacle - September 28, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 28, 2013 at 2:34 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - September 28, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 28, 2013 at 4:33 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 29, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 29, 2013 at 1:35 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 29, 2013 at 11:54 am
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - September 29, 2013 at 12:33 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 30, 2013 at 12:50 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 1, 2013 at 5:04 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by max-greece - September 30, 2013 at 1:28 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 2, 2013 at 6:55 am
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 3, 2013 at 7:22 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by LastPoet - October 3, 2013 at 7:24 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 4, 2013 at 4:08 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 4, 2013 at 3:52 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 6, 2013 at 3:26 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 7, 2013 at 4:27 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 12, 2013 at 2:01 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - October 16, 2013 at 4:29 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 17, 2013 at 5:39 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 8, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - October 3, 2013 at 3:30 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 3, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 4, 2013 at 2:31 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 4, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Jackalope - October 6, 2013 at 8:57 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 8, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 8, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 12, 2013 at 2:34 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 17, 2013 at 3:40 pm
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