(September 29, 2013 at 2:26 pm)apophenia Wrote:
@Waratah:
I think, though I might be mistaken, Drich's failure to respond to your questions has to do with him being unable to see the subtle logical distinctions in the various formulations. His mind doesn't grok that kind of detail, so to him, I'm guessing, you are simply repeating yourself by saying the same thing multiple times using slightly different wording; he doesn't see any distinctions, so he treats them all as just variations on the same theme.
You could be right here since for some reason drich has kudos your post. This will be the second time that we will have kudos a post.
It could be my comprehension skills, but I think you are saying that drich comprehension skills are lacking? If so, do you agree drich with apophenia post?
The other way to take why drich has kudos your post is because it is well written of course but also because if he truly understands it gives him an out. This way he can publically still say a/s/k without looking like a complete liar. For this reason I will highlight the very pacific elements that concern god giving of the holy spirit in luke 11.
5 And He said to them, “Which of you shall have a friend, and go to him at midnight and say to him, Friend, lend me three loaves; 6 for a friend of mine has come to me on his journey, and I have nothing to set before him’; 7 and he will answer from within and say, ‘Do not trouble me; the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed; I cannot rise and give to you’? 8 I say to you, though he will not rise and give to him because he is his friend, yet because of his persistence he will rise and give him as many as he needs. 9 “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 11 If a son asks for bread[d] from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish? 12 Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”
I know I have highlight before and you accused me of cherry picking. The highlighted parts clearly shows the process to receive the holy spirit. If you disagree you must be able to prove otherwise. You have fail to do so, so far. I could be wrong.
Until you have proven me wrong I will point out your mistake each time you use a/s/k.
I will be away for a few days, so this is the reason I will not reply to any of your posts in the next few days.