RE: Lingvogeometry
October 1, 2013 at 5:04 pm
(This post was last modified: October 1, 2013 at 5:07 pm by Monolens.)
(October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am)genkaus Wrote: So fucking what? In sanskrit, bull is a synonym for mighty - for the obvious reason that a bull is a mighty animal. For the record, "vrsni" also means manly, air, angry, strong and so on.There are lots of mighty animals. But in oldest texts give complete pictures that bulls where somehow connected to the sky.
Sorry, the epithet here is not "bull". They are being called strong or mighty. As for the rest of your crap, "vrsanav" would not be related to rain. "Varsanav" might be. That "a" in the middle is significant because in Sanskrit, it changes the entire phonetic and semantic structure of the word.
Your version was that Asvins are sunset and sunrise. Both this phenomenon are happening in the sky.
Mighty, air, bull – gather these concepts. As they are gathered by Sanskrit word “vrsni”. What object can be described by these three concepts? Your opinion?
(October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am)genkaus Wrote: Vesak, Vaisakhi, Baisakhi or Buddha Purnima is associated with harvest season. It is not Easter. There are no rabbits involved. It is celebrated on a full moon because, surprise, surprise, it is based on lunar calendar. In fact, you can take it for a given that almost all holidays within a lunar calendar would be centred on new moon, no moon or full moon. That's because its a fucking lunar calendar.In tropical Asia there are no harvest seasons. Fruits are growing all year long. Rice is harvested 4 times a year and harvest time depends on seeding time.
And I've no idea which country that flag belongs to, but its not Srilanka.
Regarding given flag. It is interesting if you will accept my evidence.
This is a flag of Central province of Sri Lanka. You can see there elements of modern Sri Lankan flag and moon symbol with rabbit inside. This motif is very common in Sri Lanka
![[Image: flags_sri.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.lingvogeometry.org%2Fimages%2Fflags_sri.jpg)
Last is the coin of Sri Lanka with its symbols: moon rabbit, lion and elephant.
Moon nature of elephant was already mentioned. The lion comes also correct as LioN is one of the ancient moon allegory.
In Russian “LuNa” means “moon”. “lion” in Russian is “LeV”. Remember that “aLPHa” means “bull”.
eLePHant was already mentioned.
Lion was connected with moon because his crescent like hair.
![[Image: lions.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.lingvogeometry.org%2Fimages%2Flions.png)
Back to flag:
The emblems of the Empire, the State and the People were combined on a flag which can be qualified to be the national flag. Such a flag was the ira handa maha kodiya (sun, moon [and stars] great flag) of the Hatara Korale Disawa.
![[Image: image045.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.hubert-herald.nl%2FSriLankaKandy_bestanden%2Fimage045.jpg)
You can read more there. I have proved my declaration.
(October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am)genkaus Wrote: Further, Masjid means a place for prayer. "To bow down in prayer" is called "sajda". Not even phonetically similar. And there is no connection between the bowed shape and anything you've been saying so far - not even a long convoluted one. Take a look at your own picture - no crescent there.
“to bow down” means to make a bowed/bended figure. This is regard to the crescent – the oldest “god” of humanity. That is why in every religion there is practice to bow down during praying.
And etymology that you refer to is not 100% according to Wiki:
Arabic مسجد (masjid), meaning "place of worship" or "prostration in prayer", either from Nabataean masgĕdhā́ or from Arabic سجد (sajada), meaning "to bow down in prayer" or "worship", probably ultimately from Aramaic sĕghēdh.
Muslims copy their “divine symbol” in every possible way. They wear special hats, they grow crescent like beards and so on. I know for sure why they do that. If you are familiar with neuro-linguistic programming, you can understand also what is the reason of such hypersymbolism.
(October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am)genkaus Wrote: A cursory look at google images suggests otherwise. Most of them do close to a full circle.We probably use different googles

(October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am)genkaus Wrote: Not. Not at all. I don't think Judaism is a moon religion and your saying that it is one without a doubt doesn't make it so. I also don't agree that they were drawing a crescent as a symbol of their god. I most certainly do disagree with your classification of Hinduism with the other three. They are all Abrahamic religions while Hinduism is not. Also, Hinduism is not a moon religion.I have told you that if you want to make your own opinion – read the originals.
The most famous god in Rig-Veda is Soma. Its moon nature no doubted even by traditional researchers.
Look at pictures of other “non-moon” gods. They all filled with moon symbolic:
Shiva which is mostly imaged with moon in hair and runs on the bull Nandi:
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Krishna which usually has crescent on his head and comes surrounded by cows:
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Rudra with crescent in hair and on the bull:
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Vishnu – crescent on head and moon symbols in hands:
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Lakshmi is moon goddess according to texts. Her symbol is money (mooney)
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Ganesh comes with one tusk and other moon symbolics:
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Kali – night goddess with sickle, bow, shield – moon symbols:
![[Image: kali2.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.lingvogeometry.org%2Fimages%2Fkali2.png)
Than how the religion, where every god is associated with the moon by one or another way, can be not a moon religion?
Hindus have putted the moon on their heads and laugh with us who cannot understand this simple allegory.
![[Image: chalma.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.lingvogeometry.org%2Fimages%2Fchalma.png)
It is very easy. If you want to hide something put it in most visible place. Think about it.
(October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am)genkaus Wrote: No, horns are not shaped like corn. So there is no etymological or semantic connection.Corn is not shaped like horn? If you don’t accept this similarity sure you cannot accept other ones.
Is seeing connections where none exist a part of your methodology?
![[Image: corn_horn.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.lingvogeometry.org%2Fimages%2Fcorn_horn.png)
Remember that corn is also "maize" in English? MaiZe = MeSyaC.
(October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am)genkaus Wrote: And cranes can form many different patterns while flying. And an angle would be feature of any pattern. So, no, that means nothing.No, cranes don’t form different patterns. They fly in wedge only, as it is most effective model. Scientists have discovered that this pattern saves the energy of birds because they fly in turbulent flow produced by heading fliers.
People where observed this behavior thousands years. Don’t you think they have also explained it somehow?
(October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am)genkaus Wrote: Quite a few actually. Eagles, peacocks. Also try to remember that crown is not a universal feature of cranes.This is why eagle is the holy bird of Roman empire and peacock is used in Europe where we usually used to see crescents or crosses:
![[Image: roman_eagle.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.lingvogeometry.org%2Fimages%2Froman_eagle.png)
![[Image: peacocks.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.lingvogeometry.org%2Fimages%2Fpeacocks.png)
(September 30, 2013 at 12:50 pm)Monolens Wrote: Did you ever know that the crane as mechanism is also divine? Think I’m joking? Look at this Indian annual religious festival. The main action is the crane that is moved around the temple 365 times with young boys attached to it.
Guess why they do so?
(October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am)genkaus Wrote: I can't find any Indian religious festival which even uses that particular ritual much less have it as the main attraction. Can you tell me the name of the festival?
Also, I'm not seeing so much as a crane in the picture as a lever mechanism to get the stick to stand-up straight.
You can watch it in this video 35 min. 11 sec. The name of festival is Velinkucham as I understood from video. It is happening for one of Indian goddess Batrakali. They push the crane around the temple 365 times. I was really surprised that the name of village where it takes place is “karana”

http://youtu.be/1qda9A64wMo?t=35m11s
(October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am)genkaus Wrote: What's predicted by your "research" is that people would see the fish shape in the moon. Not that they'd go with the assumption that moon is a fish. Which is what happens in the story. Got any other examples?In the given story the fish-moon allegory is played out. The fish, which became the moon. As it is allegory you will never find straight information why it is connected.
For more examples which can be found quickly you can check this Chinese folk story.
http://chineseculture.about.com/library/...031999.htm
And, by the way, the logo well known for you:
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The fisherman is on the moon. As a marketing specialist I can assure you that everything that looks accidental in marketing is the hard considered work by many specialists. Especially it concerns Steven Spielberg.
(October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am)genkaus Wrote: Actually, if I recall correctly, *ker is not the root fro crescent. And as I've said many other times, phonetic similarity doesn't mean anything.
http://www.etymonline.com Wrote:crescent (n.)So it is.
late 14c., "crescent-shaped ornament," from Anglo-French cressaunt, from Old French creissant "crescent of the moon" (12c., Modern French croissant), from Latin crescentum (nominative crescens), present participle of crescere "come forth, spring up, grow, thrive, swell, increase in numbers or strength," from PIE root *ker- "to grow"
(October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am)genkaus Wrote: Its quite possible that the meaning of the hand gesture - warding off evil - carried over to Christianity and they use a vaariation to signify the same thing. However, there is no relation to the moon here.Look at this Buddha famous mudra. He is showing full moon by up hand and young moon by down hand (boat=budha).
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To confirm its moon nature Buddha is even sleeping on most sculptures. Sleeping is night state when moon rises.
Of course nobody from priests will never tell you that Buddha is the moon. How they collect money after?
That is why they tell many stories about the Buddha. Some are even straightly connected to moon, but people are so foolish that even this aiming they don’t understand.
On the mountain near the cave are two human monk and the farmer. - Why are you smiling ? - Asks one another .
- Well, I admire the moon.
- What you admire?
- Moon - monk raises his finger to the moon, but his companion did not even raise his head.
- What is the Moon? - asks the farmer
- Yes, here it is - surprised monk - right in front of you, the yellow one.
- Yellow? It is necessary to tell someone .
After half an hour around the first monk gathers the crowd.
- Oh, Guru , tell us about the moon - timidly asks the delegate from the crowd.
- What is there to tell? Raise your head and see for yourself .
Someone, keeping an eye on the monk's devotees, hastily scratches on the scroll : "One has only to lift his head - eyes open and moon, yellow circle on the black sky ... "
- What are you writing this? - warily asks Monk
- Someone has to keep teaching for the children, and if not me, then who?
- What is the teaching ? SIMPLY raise your HEAD !
"To raise your head - not difficult, its simple ... " - Re- starts scribbling peasant, but the monk has his fist in the bottom of the chin and before the eyes of the writer flashes yellow spot.
- What is it , Master? ?
- The Moon .
- God, I saw the moon. I saw the moon! The moon!
- He saw the moon - the crowd worries and starts to dance around moonviewer who rubs his chin.
Monk, meanwhile, waving to the whole thing by hand and walks away, admiring the full moon.
Two thousand years later someone reads "lunar tantra" and sighs: "Is it having sense - he thinks. - At the time, the Guru was there and could always just help you the right time. Some, however, argue that one book is enough and that they see with their own eyes the moon every night, but who can you believe these days?
Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.