(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Ok. But why you do not explain "air"? It is also the translation of given word.
I did. Air is considered a mighty force within Hindu mythology. Two of the physically strong characters in the Hindu mythology are sons of Wind god.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Also given synonyms can be related to any god. As god is strong, mighty, powerful, forced. So god is the bull? According to Vedas it is so. Why you even don't try to understand this simple concept?
A bull is a strong, mighty powerful animal. Gods are strong, might and powerful. So calling them bulls makes for a nice metaphor. Doesn't mean that they are bulls. Why you even don't try to understand this simple concept?
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: You are correct. But it is not the harvest of crop. They start new year from celebration of harvest of cinnamon. And this time no significant weather change occurs.
Mostly all fruits grow there all year long. Cinnamon harvest to special date is also tradition nether season related happening. Cinnamon's bark can be taken any day of year with same quality and state.
It doesn't matter what they harvest or whether or not they need to. They have a harvest festival. That harvest festival is celebrated with Vesak. And neither has any connection to rabbits.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: It is ok that you accept the moon rabbit. This motif is really common for all human civilizations and cultures. And I think you understand that putting this symbol onto national flags and coins indicates that it meant much more for those people than only the rabbit which they saw on the moon.
It is same as to put the hammer and sickle on the flag of Soviet Union without any meaning. Usually flag have symbols that are very important to people. Can you explain why rabbit is so important for Ceylonians?
It isn't. They are not putting the rabbit on their national flags or coins.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Look closer to the story of Ganesh and you will quickly find many moon connections.
No, you won't. There are only one or two connections.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: 1. The Ganesha Purana prescribes a tilaka mark as well as a crescent moon on the forehead.
Wrong. The tilak mark is usually of either 'U' or 'V' shape or 3 parallel lines. Or dots.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: 2. A distinct form of Ganesha called Bhalachandra (IAST: bhālacandra; "Moon on the Forehead") includes that iconographic element.
That's one of his 108 names. Others include Dhoomravarna (smoke-colored), Kaveesha (master of poets), Lambodara (pot-bellied), Musikvahana (mouse-rider) and so on and on and on.
Sorry, that name doesn't mean he is a lunar deity.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Even the story of Ganesh broken tusk is straightly connected to the moon:
Ganesh was very annoyed, and thought that jeer had offended him. Resentful, he removed his right tusk and threw it to the moon face.
That's the one connection - and that not only establishes moon god as a separate entity but as an offender inferior to Ganesha.
Further, other explanations for the missing tusk include breaking it off to keep writing Mahabharata and losing it in a fight with Parshurama.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Moon is one of the main motifs of elephants costume on Hindu festivals.
No it isn't. And I'm not seeing it in the picture either.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: By the way do you know the Karan story about the white elephant? It is said that one unusual white elephant forced full army to step back.
There is no white elephant in nature. So we have to understand it as allegory. Since Islam is moon religion most possible that this allegory is dedicated to its main deity. What do you think about it?
I think you are just making shit up now.
White elephants - or rather Albino elephants - do exist in nature and are understandably depicted as pure white. Further, they're regarded as special due to rarity. That's how you should understand any allegory regarding white elephants.
And I don't know of any Karan story about white elephant. But if it is about Hindu mythology, I know that there is no such story.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: At least you don’t deny little similarity. I can add LePorid (rabbit) to LeV, aLFa, eLePHant to have full picture.
And I can add LuPus, LeProsy, LaVatory and LaVa to give an even fuller picture - similarity means nothing.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: I don’t say that they worshiped moon only. But if you read modern ideas about world religions you will find that most authors claim the sun to be only one god’s association and the moon only muslim stuff. I disagree with that and as you see have enough arguments for thinking this way.
If that was all you were trying to disprove then there would've been no need for these ridiculous arguments. Moon was one of the deities in ancient religions - as were sun, earth, wind, thunder and so on. That much can be established through the reading of any of their texts and wouldn't require your convoluted reasoning.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Think about the word “mass” in terms of action of worship. Don’t you see MSS is also here?
I agree that bowing down is a sign of accepting of somebody’s power and its prevalent to many religions. But why bowing down? Why not jumping or splitting? Every action has a reason. Especially so common MaNner.
Because when you bow, you literally lower yourself.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Ok. The circle is second basic moon characteristic. In many cases historical scientists are studying archeological findings and is something circular found they count that people were having sun religion. Somehow they forget that the moon can be also characterized by this shape. I’m more than sure that suns on Srilankan symbols are fullmoons originally. As they celebrate every fullmoon day and connect it with Buddha, but not celebrate Sundays
On the other hand, perhaps all the symbols are about the sun. The full circle represents normal sun, the crescent represents solar eclipse, any semicircles represent rising sun and Srilankans used rabbit because they like playing with rabbits under the sun.
Your ridiculous logic works both ways.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Indra and Soma are avatars. It is easy to understand while reading the text. Same epithets are used for both gods and in several cases combined names are used: Indra-Soma (VII, 104)
Same to Soma-Rudra (VI, 74).
Hope you agree that Soma is moon god. So you can see one more evidence that bull was connected with moon by ancients as bull is also one of Rudra’s (Soma’s) epithet.
No, Indra and Soma are not Avatars. Same epithets are used because the same metaphor can work for different gods. Further, calling the gods mighty does not prove that they are bulls. The names are not combined - the "and" is implied. And if you are looking at connections - others include Indra-Agni, Indra-Vayu, Indra-Varuna, Indra-Vishnu, Mitra-Varuna, Agni-Durga, Indra-Brahaspati, and so on. None of which have anything to do with Soma - the moon god. Which means, moon is only one of the many gods mentioned in Rigveda - a fact already established - and there is no connection to bulls.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: So Rudra, Shiva, Soma and Indra are same moon god. That’s what I say. How to call the religion non moon oriented if mostly all its gods are lunar deities?
You are wrong. Rudra and Shiva are the same god - but not a lunar deity. Soma is a lunar deity and Indra is not.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Krishna is called Krishnachandra in many cases (Chandra means moon). He is connected to moon as he was appeared during Moon dynasty. His name is also GOWinda (COWinda)
His name is KRiSHna (CReSCent) means black. This is moon allegory. Moon is becoming black every month.
His animal is cow. And he plays on pipe which symbolizes horn.
No, he's not called Krishnachandra.
No, he's not connected to the moon.
His name, Govinda, refers to his being raised as a cowherd.
His name Krishna (dark) is not a moon allegory - it is a reference to his dark skin.
His animal is not a cow. The cow motif appears only in his childhood depictions when he was a cowherd.
And his flute does not symbolize a horn.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Vishnu is avatar of Krishna. So it has same characteristics. You can see that on coin of 200 year BC he is pictured with both crescent and horns.
Krishna is an avatar of Vishnu - not the other way around. And please provide evidence that the coin is supposed to depict Krishna.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Main symbols of Lakshmi is MONey (silver circles). And her tits as tits have shape that was connected by ancients with crescent moon shape. And milk from tits was connected with milk of cow which is moon allegory. You can find another moon allegories if you check Lakshmi’s symbols. Bow, coconut, wheel, lotus etc.
So, the symbol for goddess of wealth is money? Who would've thunk?
Again, money is not a moon allegory - its money. And her tits are not connected to moon either. Neither are cows connected to moon. Nor any of the other symbols such as wheel or lotus.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: None refer traditionally. But just look at the shapes of her symbols. Bow, cup, tongue, shield, scull
Kali translated as black as in case of Krishna. She is also moon allegory.
None of which mean "moon".
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Sure this is muslim hat. But Hindus have same. I told you before, it matters what you see and not what you are looking at. If you look at this kind of head you see crescent shape.
No, I don't. And Hindus don't have the same hat.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Hindus will not laugh if somebody understands their hardest secret. This hats help them to look important and this is a part of NLP story which I have told you before.
Once again - not a Hindu hat. Also ridiculous is the notion that any hat of that sort would make anyone look important in Hinduism. Also ridiculous is the idea that they secretly worship the moon.
And yes, Hindus will laugh at you if you suggest that their religion is all about the moon and their icons represent it. I should know, I grew up a Hindu and I'm laughing at you right now.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Yes, this is why not only this kind of bird is divine.
Thus proving that the connection between crane and crescent means nothing.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Sorry, my mistake. Of course peacock is not cock.
Rooster is used for weather needs only now. Originally it was placed on temples as a symbol of god. Its shape is crescent like.
In Russian its name is “PeTuH” which corresponds with BuDHa. Female name is “KuRiTSa” which corresponds with “CReSCent”
Proof that it was ever placed as a symbol for god?
And your so called phonetic connections are getting more and more ridiculous by the second. Next you'll be drawing a connection between feces and Jesus.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: There is Batrakali goddess. Just google it. Festival name may be misspelled as he says it very chewed.
The village name might be Karna as again he don’t spell it and transfers from what he heard from villagers.
Anyway you can see that they have very old tradition connected with crane, young person and 365 days.
I think this tradition is based on RigVeda story about Soma as divine juice which was pressed by some special stones. According to text, the upper stone was fixed by ropes to lifting mechanism. This crane is an echo of that ritual.
Pressing stones is mechanism which is now known as Lingam of Shiva.
There is no Batrakali and google says so too. Get me the correct name for the festival and I'll check out the rest of your ridiculous assertions.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: There is "Fish for the Moon in the Well" in Chinese story. And fisherman on the moon in Dreamworks logo. Being taken separately these facts say nothing, but if you put together all other described issues this starts to make sense.
And given that there is no point of commonality here - there is no reason to put them together,
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Did I? quote please.
Here:
(September 30, 2013 at 12:50 pm)Monolens Wrote: Latin “cervus” is coming from same PIE root as “horn” - *ker-, which if you remember is the root for “crescent”.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Sure meditating can be done day time. But it still connected with closed eyes which naturally are closed during sleep which takes place night time.
Also meditation is a kind of sleeping in terms of medicine.
Now that's just bullshit. Closing eyes is not required for meditation - though it helps. And no, it isn't sleeping in any terms.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: It is Buddhist story man! Read it again. Buddhist monk tells openly – “look at the moon”. And story laughs with people who sees it everyday but cannot understand that its is “god”.
Yeah - not seeing any of that in the story. No mention of Buddhism or the moon being god.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: Do you know why Buddha is called piece of shit?
I didn't know he was - but I'm sure shit has something to do with moon.
Let me guess - shit sounds like night. Night is when moon comes up. Therefore, calling Buddha a piece of shit must mean that he is the moon.
(October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm)Monolens Wrote: This is Roman goddess Diana which is connected with moon according to mythology. See, she has crescent diadem on her head and she’s riding bulls.'
Wow, the roman moon goddess Diana has a crescent in her hair? Stop the presses.
But wait - Diana, or rather Artemis, her Hellenic version, is not really connected to bulls. Her favored animal is the deer. Her supposed connection to bulls come from misinterpretation of the term Artemis Tauropolos, which can mean "pulled by the bulls" but actually is more likely to mean "worshiped at Tauris" - which is much more in line with the rest of her mythical persona.