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I did. Air is considered a mighty force within Hindu mythology. Two of the physically strong characters in the Hindu mythology are sons of Wind god.
A bull is a strong, mighty powerful animal. Gods are strong, might and powerful. So calling them bulls makes for a nice metaphor. Doesn't mean that they are bulls. Why you even don't try to understand this simple concept?

I understand that gods are not bulls. It is a metaphor for crescent moon. That is why it is connected with air. They have seen bull horns in the air and logically connected it.
You must understand that ancient people were living in very simple society and were having very simple conceptual apparatus. Something that looks very simple and Apopheniс for modern people, 10 thousand years ago was kind of highest mathematics and complicated logic.
If you will read RigVeda by fresh mind you will not see there difficult philosophy or extra unusual concepts. All hymns are relatively same. They sing how they fire the bonfire, make simple rice cakes, press some narcotic weed juice, mix it with milk, drink and sing about the reality that they see around. As this happens mostly by night, they make verses about moon and stars using very simple allegories as moon-bull, milky way, flying horses, wheel or boat in the sky and so on.
Same motifs you can find in any religion or culture. That time people did not have wide list of surrounding objects. Cows, horses, birds, boats, simple huts, bows, cups, fishing nets. That is all they have that time. So if they see the moon how should they explain its nature? Only in terms available around.
They did not have cars, computers, internet, paper, pens, houses different food. Only simple thing give by nature. It is for you the skeleton of dead cow is nothing interesting as you have seen it many times during study. But for that people it was the highest pick of engineering art. They were studying from the nature about how things work and have transferred these knowledge in only available terminology.
That is why Russian "KoRaBl" (ship) sounds same as "KoRoVa" (cow) because the frame of ship is constructively same as a frame of animal skeleton.
Just for your reference "caravel" is coming from the name of simple boat covered with cow leather.
If you want to become real researcher, to understand ancient thoughts you must start thinking in terms of that time and with concepts available that time.
Watch this movie. There is still that kind of people on our earth. They have cow which is Alpha and Omega of their lifes. It gives milk and blood for drinking, urine as antiseptic, shit as construction material and fuel, skin and bones as art and again construction materials, meat as food. All they have gives only one horned animal. Is it not a point to call it divine?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...7WfOiLDOvY

It doesn't matter what they harvest or whether or not they need to. They have a harvest festival. That harvest festival is celebrated with Vesak. And neither has any connection to rabbits.

Except it is celebrated in full moon day and the moon is connected with rabbit according to their own arts.

It isn't. They are not putting the rabbit on their national flags or coins.

But they did. The flags and coins I have showed are very ancient. So why ancient people were putting rabbit on the flag if it not important?

1. The Ganesha Purana prescribes a tilaka mark as well as a crescent moon on the forehead.

Wrong. The tilak mark is usually of either 'U' or 'V' shape or 3 parallel lines. Or dots.

Hah! Don't you find it funny? 'V' shape and 'U' shape as well as dot are the shapes of crescent and circle moon. So why did they put these shapes on forehead?
Regarding Ganesh Purana it was a quote from Wikipedia. You can claim them that they are wrong!

That's one of his 108 names. Others include Dhoomravarna (smoke-colored), Kaveesha (master of poets), Lambodara (pot-bellied), Musikvahana (mouse-rider) and so on and on and on.
Sorry, that name doesn't mean he is a lunar deity.

bhālacandra means that Ganesh is a deity with moon on his forehead. If it was said that he has rectangle on his head it could be hard to connect it with moon. But he has MOON of forehead, so it means he is connected to the moon somehow. Can you explain how? Why he is having that moon there?

That's the one connection - and that not only establishes moon god as a separate entity but as an offender inferior to Ganesha.
Further, other explanations for the missing tusk include breaking it off to keep writing Mahabharata and losing it in a fight with Parshurama.

Do you really believe that there was a person with head of elephant who was fighting by his tusks while riding a mouse or he was able to throw his tusk on the moon? Can't you understand that these are only allegories. It is metaphoric description of some real stuff seen by people that time. What did they see to come up with such allegories???

No it isn't. And I'm not seeing it in the picture either.

Ok. The crescents I talk about are right on his nose. Now do you see them?

I think you are just making shit up now.
White elephants - or rather Albino elephants - do exist in nature and are understandably depicted as pure white. Further, they're regarded as special due to rarity. That's how you should understand any allegory regarding white elephants.
And I don't know of any Karan story about white elephant. But if it is about Hindu mythology, I know that there is no such story.

Where did you get that albino elephants are pure white? According to wiki they are:
A white elephant (also albino elephant) is a rare kind of elephant, but not a distinct species. Although often depicted as snow white, their skin is normally a soft reddish-brown, turning a light pink when wet. They have fair eyelashes and toenails.
I think you did not read Quran and that is why don’t remember.
Please refer to this wikipage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_of_the_Elephant
Abraha, incensed, launched an expedition of forty thousand men against the Kaaba at Mecca, led by a white elephant named Mahmud (and possibly with other elephants - some accounts state there were several elephants, or even as many as eight) in order to destroy the Kaaba. Several Arab tribes attempted to fight him on the way, but were defeated.
According to the Qur'an, the next day, as Abraha prepared to enter the city, a dark cloud of small birds appeared. The birds carried small rocks in their beaks, and bombarded the Ethiopian forces, who fled in panic. Abraha was seriously wounded and he retreated towards Yemen but died on the way. However, the animals of Abraha's army were not killed, and the tribes saw this as a sign of the holiness of the Kaaba.
Oops. Birds are again there

And I can add LuPus, LeProsy, LaVatory and LaVa to give an even fuller picture - similarity means nothing.

Why not? You think that there will be no connection?
LuPus - wolf. An animal which first association is that wolves roar on the moon. Did you know it?
Actually wolves don't do that. They are connected to the moon as they have crescent shape in their exterior. Ancient people recognized that and quickly connected two concepts on similar shape basis.

LeProsy etymology comes from PIE root *lep- which means "scale", "good"
GooD = GoD, Scales have well recognizable crescent shape.

LaVatory - etymology come from PIE root *leu(e)- which means "to wash". It is connected with water which usually comes from sky. Remember that Messiah means "watered", Mosas - "taken from water" and Christian ritual of baptizing is putting somebody into water.
LaVa comes from same root "to wash"
You can add more words and ensure that all examples will come to previously mentioned semantic core.

On the other hand, perhaps all the symbols are about the sun. The full circle represents normal sun, the crescent represents solar eclipse, any semicircles represent rising sun and Srilankans used rabbit because they like playing with rabbits under the sun.

As I have told you before. I was also thinking that both circle and semicircle are about the sun. But deeper research with reading myself originals of all available religious text gave me another picture. Mostly all of interpretations given by modern historians are wrong. And they are wrong due to political reasons. For 2 thousand years Christian "sunny" religion fights with eastern "moon" religion Islam. What do you think if historians will inform that they have researched the books and found that most world religions are lunar. First, who would believe them, second, it was very risky, same as it is risky now.
How will Americans fight against Muslims if they understood that they have completely same roots of beliefs?

No, Indra and Soma are not Avatars. Same epithets are used because the same metaphor can work for different gods. Further, calling the gods mighty does not prove that they are bulls. The names are not combined - the "and" is implied. And if you are looking at connections - others include Indra-Agni, Indra-Vayu, Indra-Varuna, Indra-Vishnu, Mitra-Varuna, Agni-Durga, Indra-Brahaspati, and so on. None of which have anything to do with Soma - the moon god. Which means, moon is only one of the many gods mentioned in Rigveda - a fact already established - and there is no connection to bulls.

Ok. There some quests in RigVeda. Interesting how you gonna explain it:
Formed with twelve spokes, by length of time, unweakened, rolls round the heaven this wheel of
during Order. Herein established, joined in pairs together, seven hundred Sons and twenty stand, O Agni.

You are wrong. Rudra and Shiva are the same god - but not a lunar deity. Soma is a lunar deity and Indra is not.

Shiva is riding the bull Nandi. His symbol is कौमुदी kaumudī - crescent. Which is the cup that symbolizes Soma drink. Also he holds triśūla - tree spear. It is the crescent on stick.
He has snake around his neck. Snake is famous symbol of god/devil in many traditions. Guess why? Just remind what uniqueness have snakes.


Every snake has special kind of tongue - spitted one. People have seen these kind of "horns" and count it as a god symbol. In other traditions snake is the symbol of devil. As you know devil is imaged as horned gay with trisula in his hand and spitted tongue in his mouth.


So Shiva and Rudra, who is his avatar are fully connected to moon symbols. Why we cannot count them as lunar deities?

No, he's not called Krishnachandra .

It is stated in some Krishnaism text available in Russian. Cant find English source.
But in The Bhagavad Gita Krishna itself says: "Among the stars I'm the moon".
In Krishnaism book Chaitanya Charitamrita there are many allegories of Krishna as moon:
"The face of Kṛṣṇa is the king of all moons, and the body of Kṛṣṇa is the throne. Thus the king governs a society of moons.
"Kṛṣṇa has two cheeks that shine like glowing gems. Both are considered full moons. His forehead is considered a half moon, and the spot of sandalwood there is considered a full moon.
"His fingernails are many full moons, and they dance on the flute in His hands. Their song is the melody of that flute. His toenails are also many full moons, and they dance on the ground. Their song is the jingling of His ankle bells.
"Kṛṣṇa's face is the enjoyer king. That full-moon face makes His shark-shaped earrings and lotus eyes dance. His eyebrows are like bows, and His eyes are like arrows. His ears are fixed on the string of that bow, and when His eyes spread to His ears, He pierces the hearts of the gopīs.
You can see same allegories that were used in Rig Veda about Ashvins: cheeks, eyebrows, eyes, ears and so on.

His name, Govinda, refers to his being raised as a cowherd.

So why do you say he is not connected to the cow? He is a cow boy. Jesus was also born in the place full of horned animals. And he is a cowherd too.
As Krishna it self is an allegory. What can be coded by such allegory? Or you believe there was a real man with blue skin flying between stars?

And his flute does not symbolize a horn.

It symboloses him as an cowherd. And again comes to cow. Sky cow, as Krishna is god.

Krishna is an avatar of Vishnu - not the other way around. And please provide evidence that the coin is supposed to depict Krishna.

This coin is Indian silver drahma of greek-bakrian king Agafokla (190-180 BC)
It is stated in Russian part of wiki: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%8...0%BD%D0%B0

So, the symbol for goddess of wealth is money? Who would've thunk?
Again, money is not a moon allegory - its money. And her tits are not connected to moon either. Neither are cows connected to moon. Nor any of the other symbols such as wheel or lotus.

As money, tits, coconut and wheel are round shape they can be combined on this logic basis. Lotus, bow, shell, cup have semicircle shape and it can be connected also.
The question is why Lakshmi symbols have so many references to this two shapes?

None refer traditionally. But just look at the shapes of her symbols. Bow, cup, tongue, shield, scull
Kali translated as black as in case of Krishna. She is also moon allegory.

None of which mean "moon".

Again same question. Why so many symbols of same crescent like shape? Coincidence?

No, I don't. And Hindus don't have the same hat.

Once again - not a Hindu hat. Also ridiculous is the notion that any hat of that sort would make anyone look important in Hinduism. Also ridiculous is the idea that they secretly worship the moon.
And yes, Hindus will laugh at you if you suggest that their religion is all about the moon and their icons represent it. I should know, I grew up a Hindu and I'm laughing at you right now.

Ok. For Hindus hat I meant this one:


Looking at this person in such kind of hat, firstly your brain analyses the shape of object and then color set. After it makes mathematic calculation and “understands” what you actually see. So having a crescent in your image is like to have hacking tool for the brains of other people. This shape is perceived by our “biocomputers” as a special command code (god) meaning that next coming important data.
Moon-god conception is first, basic and prevailing conception for humanity. Religion uses this “cheat code” to make free access to you neurotic channels, to record the data inside your brain without your perceived control.
Marketing is using same instruments. Look around you. What kinds of successful company logos you see around?
Nike (Nose).
Reebok (Rybka (fish in russian), logo forms cross)
Adidas (jesus) (triangle logo)
Asics (jesus)
Playboy – rabbit
aPPLe - BiBLe
Mini – moon
Paramount – crescent shaped logo.
Red bull …
Opera’s browser Coast with “magic” C letter.



So back to HaT (GoD, CoDe) The image of hat is very important.
That is why in gentleman society it is usual to take hat off. Not because everybody is raised, but because if someone will be in big hat and other will not, that person will have artificial authority.
Read any NLP book to understand this concept. You will laugh much less after.

Proof that it was ever placed as a symbol for god?

Easy! Wiki: In the sixth century, it is reputed that Pope Gregory I declared the cock the emblem of Christianity saying the rooster was "the most suitable emblem of Christianity", being "the emblem of St Peter"
You can find more in internet. Rooster is placed on catholic churches. Proof accepted?
There are also enough cocks in Hinduism:
In the western Indian state of Gujarat, an event of the Makar Sankranti festival is kozhi kettu, the rooster fight. Kozhi kettu is an ancient ritual of Tulunadu and an ancient ritual associated with the ‘daivasthanams’ (temples) there.

There is no Batrakali and google says so too. Get me the correct name for the festival and I'll check out the rest of your ridiculous assertions.

Probably it is Bhadrakali - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhadrakali
I have told you that gay from video don’t spell it. That is why I can make mistake in writing.
But if you’ll check in google for Bhardakali festival you will find also this link and it means I talk about same action:
http://www.hindudevotionalblog.com/2011/...-2011.html
Interesting to have you idea about the tradition with crane.

Did I? quote please.

Here:

Latin “cervus” is coming from same PIE root as “horn” - *ker-, which if you remember is the root for “crescent”.

I said right. “Korova” (cow) comes from “horn” which comes from *ker (growing). Same root for crescent.
So there is a strongest connection in language between the cow and crescent. Your opinion why?

Now that's just bullshit. Closing eyes is not required for meditation - though it helps. And no, it isn't sleeping in any terms.

Ok. Then prove that Buddha is meditating on this kind of statue, but not sleeping.

I didn't know he was - but I'm sure shit has something to do with moon.
Let me guess - shit sounds like night. Night is when moon comes up. Therefore, calling Buddha a piece of shit must mean that he is the moon.

In terms of linguistics «god” and “shit” are very close. But it is not the reason.
Check below story. It is well known by Buddhists. But no one will ever tell you why Buddha is called so.
"What is Buddha? A dried shit stick". Such a statement about Mohammed or Jesus would provoke outrage amongst Muslims or Christians but to the pious Buddhist who asked the question in T'ang dynasty China, Master Ummon's reply was a precious teaching. It was so valued that it has been passed down from more than 1,000 years and is now case 21 in the Gateless Gate, one of the main collections of Zen koans.
If you are familiar with Sanskrit you might know that shit is called “GoBa” in this language. This word is similar with “CoW” and in most cases means cow shit.
Then look what Hindus do with cow shit. They form shit cakes that shape is semicircle. (Start play from 5m23s)
http://youtu.be/u1QuhwbFdlU?t=5m23s
As Buddha is lunar deity it was called piece of shit due to form of shit and relation of it to cow. And the deer by the way, as he was making his first mess in deer park.
Also Buddha is called “silver plate” and “flowering branch of plum” again because this object have moon connected shapes.

And no any metaphysics which Buddhists turn on if you ask them to explain above concepts.

Wow, the roman moon goddess Diana has a crescent in her hair? Stop the presses.
But wait - Diana, or rather Artemis, her Hellenic version, is not really connected to bulls. Her favored animal is the deer. Her supposed connection to bulls come from misinterpretation of the term Artemis Tauropolos, which can mean "pulled by the bulls" but actually is more likely to mean "worshiped at Tauris" - which is much more in line with the rest of her mythical persona.

Latin taurus "bull, bullock, steer," from PIE *tauro- "bull"
Deer is another horned animal.
Latin "cervus" (deer) comes from same root as “horn”, “korova” and “crescent”.
And this root is *ker – to grow.
May be now you can agree with visible connection between moon, god and horned animals in ancient traditions.
Or you still don’t see them?