Harris,
Your responses are simply too long to wade through.
I will pick you up on one thing:
"Atheism abandons moral rules, which religions enforced on human actions. Consequently, atheism literally lacks code of moral conducts in any form. This leads atheist to the vagueness of moral rules where he tends to interpret them in ways convenient to himself."
This is a nonsense.
Atheism is not about abandoning moral rules. It does abandon much of the moral rules enforced by religion, thankfully. Atheists generally do not find slavery acceptable. Atheists do not think human sacrifice is a good idea. Atheism does not encourage suicide bombing, Atheism does not provide judgements on people through gender, sexual orientation, gender identity and so on.
Religion provides a moral framework for sure. The frameworks provided, however, were set down hundreds or thousands of years ago and are no longer applicable now.
This does not mean no moral guidelines provided by religion is correct - merely that, in the main, they are not useful. Thou shalt not murder was probably not an earth-shaking revelation even 4,000 years ago.
An alternate view on morality is to look how people behave and map them in terms of their religious affiliations.
Do we see any sign of improved morality amongst the religious over the irreligious?
It appears not.
As Christopher Hitchens used to say:
"Can you think of a moral act a religious person might perform that an atheist couldn't?"
That would be no.
"Can you think of a morally reprehensible act a religious person might perform that an atheist wouldn't?"
Oh yes, and there's another, and another....
At best then morality and religion are not related. At worst religion has a deleterious affect on morality.
Your responses are simply too long to wade through.
I will pick you up on one thing:
"Atheism abandons moral rules, which religions enforced on human actions. Consequently, atheism literally lacks code of moral conducts in any form. This leads atheist to the vagueness of moral rules where he tends to interpret them in ways convenient to himself."
This is a nonsense.
Atheism is not about abandoning moral rules. It does abandon much of the moral rules enforced by religion, thankfully. Atheists generally do not find slavery acceptable. Atheists do not think human sacrifice is a good idea. Atheism does not encourage suicide bombing, Atheism does not provide judgements on people through gender, sexual orientation, gender identity and so on.
Religion provides a moral framework for sure. The frameworks provided, however, were set down hundreds or thousands of years ago and are no longer applicable now.
This does not mean no moral guidelines provided by religion is correct - merely that, in the main, they are not useful. Thou shalt not murder was probably not an earth-shaking revelation even 4,000 years ago.
An alternate view on morality is to look how people behave and map them in terms of their religious affiliations.
Do we see any sign of improved morality amongst the religious over the irreligious?
It appears not.
As Christopher Hitchens used to say:
"Can you think of a moral act a religious person might perform that an atheist couldn't?"
That would be no.
"Can you think of a morally reprehensible act a religious person might perform that an atheist wouldn't?"
Oh yes, and there's another, and another....
At best then morality and religion are not related. At worst religion has a deleterious affect on morality.
