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Lingvogeometry
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RE: Lingvogeometry
(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: What a load of crap.
Just listen yourself: CRaP = KoRoVa (cow).
Americans say “holy crap”. Did you ever think why it is holy?
Or “holy shit”? Which is usually “bull shit”.
And you say it just after I told you the story that Buddhists call Buddha “shit”. Buddha is “holy shit”, “holy bull shit”.
Russian word for shit is “GoWno”. Again the cow coming.
(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: I find it funny that you think that. 'V' and 'U' are not crescent shapes - nor are they meant to symbolize it. And the same goes for the dots.
And I couldn't find your 'quote' anywhere on Wikipedia. So only you are in the wring here.
Can you give evidence that “U” and “V” on the forehead of deity are not meant to symbolize crescent?
For quotes try look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganesha
Interesting how did you miss my quotes there. All taken from chapter “Common attributes“

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: Ganesha is the son of Shiva. Shiva is commonly depicted as having a moon on his head. That feature carried over to Ganesha. Which is why he is depicted as having a moon on his head. No need to invoke any lunar deities.
But why Shiva is commonly depicted as having a moon on his head? Just for fun? Or coincidently?
Wise people say: “Look to the roots”. Each action has root. If somebody has putted the crescent on the forehead of Shiva there must be an explanation which connects this god to this symbol. Try to explain it without connection of Shiva to the moon.

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: I don't believe it - but there are others who do. I'd say that the people who wrote this stuff believed it as well. They were not coming up with allegories, they were expanding on myths already present.
And its enough you think? How did that symbols came in already present myths?

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: Wrong. If that was the association with moon, then they'd be associated with new moon and not full moon. Do better research next time.

This is too simple logic. If something is associated with new moon it automatically associated with full moon, as new and full are to two states of one object.
If you will see the shape of rabbit on the full moon will you argue that there are no rabbit during new moon time? Interesting how. If you just don’t see it during some time it does not mean rabbit disappears somewhere. It is still there, so it can be associated whith both new and full moon.
Srilankan people see the rabbit on full moon, but put it on the sign of new moon.

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: But they don't have the same semantic core. There is no moon associated with lavatories.
I understood. You cannot build complex associations. I can teach you, it is simple.
Lavatory is associated with water. Water is associated with boat, as boat is device to use water.
Boat has shape identical to the shape of crescent. Thus lavatory is associated with moon via this logic chain.
Moses who came on a small boat is called “taken from the water”.
Buddha is sitting on the boat-like lotus or lying on the bed (boat). Boat and bad have identical crescent shape. Buddha’s main day is celebrated every month in full moon day. So logic connection boat-god-moon is again here. Not saying that in Russian “bed” means KRoWat and “boat” means KoRaBl
Did you ever pass IQ test? If you don’t understand such simple associations how you can pass it?
I have 132 IQ. May be that is why I understand something that is not available for you. How much do you have?

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: Don't be ridiculous. Both have the same root beliefs - both religions are Abrahamic religions. And both are about the sun. Its the Muslims who've misinterpreted the eclipse sun for the crescent moon.
And what object causes eclipse sun? Moon my friend. So eclipse is not only sun event. It is lunar event too. And the shape of the eclipse is nothing special for people who sees crescent moon every month. Why should they divinize that?

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote:
(October 4, 2013 at 3:52 pm)Monolens Wrote: Ok. There some quests in RigVeda. Interesting how you gonna explain it:
Formed with twelve spokes, by length of time, unweakened, rolls round the heaven this wheel of
during Order. Herein established, joined in pairs together, seven hundred Sons and twenty stand, O Agni.
A prayer made to Agni - god of fire - referencing his role as the Sun. Which is, after all, made of fire. Also, the wheel is a common motif depicted time - inexorably moving forward while being cyclical in nature - and sun is used to keep time.
Ok. But why you did not explain “twelve spokes” and “seven hundred twenty sons”?

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: Kaumadi does not mean crescent.
Well. You must send this insight to google dictionary developers. As their dictionary counts कौमुदी (Kaumadi) to be translated as moonlight. They are wrong?

(October 4, 2013 at 3:52 pm)Monolens Wrote: So why do you say he is not connected to the cow? He is a cow boy. Jesus was also born in the place full of horned animals. And he is a cowherd too.
As Krishna it self is an allegory. What can be coded by such allegory? Or you believe there was a real man with blue skin flying between stars?
(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: He is connected to the cows - but not to moon. And I don't remember Jesus being a cowherd - I thought he was a carpenter.
Jesus father was a carpenter.
Jesus is called in the bible cowherd, which literally means he is cowherd for people. (John 10:11)
And it connects him with cows as well as Krishna is connected to cows.

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: No, if doesn't. Cowherds don't carry flutes. The flute is not related to cows.

Flute is a cowherd’s instrument same as and axe for carpenter. Cowherds use it to rule animals.
Moreover, many flutelike music instruments are made from cow horn. So there is a connection.

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: You should read your own wiki more carefully. No mention of crescents or horns anywhere.
Crescent and horns are imaged on the coin. In text it is stated that Vishnu is imaged on coins. He is having horns there and crescent above his head.
Wiki is wrote for people smart enough to see themselves that there are crescent and horns. Why should it chew this simple things?
Anyway. How can you explain horns and crescent on Vishnu?

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: Also not a Hindu hat. That guy is a Sikh. Sikhism is a different religion and I'm still laughing at you.
Sikhs are not live in India? Is Sikhism a moon religion? Check their symbols and you will be surprised.
And what Wiki says about turban:
A turban, is a kind of headwear based on cloth winding. Featuring many variations, it is worn as customary headwear, usually by men. Communities with prominent turban-wearing traditions can be found in South Asia, Southeast Asia, the Near East, the Arabian Peninsula, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, and parts of the Swahili Coast. Turbans worn in South Asia are known as Pagri.
So this kind of hat is not only Sikh’s hat. It is widely used over South Asia.

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: That turban is shaped nothing like a crescent.
Open your eyes man. I don’t believe you don’t see this identity:
[Image: crescent_sikh.png]

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: You are the only one "seeing" those connections - connections which are not actually there. Meaning, you are seeing what you want to.
Nope. There is a whole direction in marketing, which is called neuromarketing. Read “Buyology” if you are interested.

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: Okay for Christianity. Not so much for Hinduism. Ritual cockfights do not elevate the rooster to a holy position.
They don’t do that in direct way, which I understood you want to see as evidence. Despite this, rooster is connected to Hinduism via ritual cockfight. Thus as in Christianity there is a connection between god and cock.

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: Sorry - not the same root. Horn comes from *ḱer- (ḱerh₂-, ḱreh₂-, ḱerh₂-ei-, ḱerh₂-eu-) meaning "horn, upper part of the head". Crescent comes from *ḱer- (ḱerh₁-, ḱreh₁-) meaning "to grow". Two different roots. A linguist would've known the difference.
As a linguist I understand that *ker- and *ker- sound and written completely same way.
Crescent has same shape as horn of bull and it is strange not to connect these roots together via this basis.
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And remember I’m telling you about new theory – Lingvogeometry. With time, traditional linguistics will have to correct many its rules due to new findings available with this theory

(October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am)genkaus Wrote: There isn't. As indicated earlier, the root for horn is "top; horn" and root for crescent is "to grow". And Diana's incidental association with bulls is explained by her worship in Tauris.
Look how it sounds like:
Diana in lunar deity – true.
Diana is having crescent moon on her head – true.
Diana is associated with bull as she worships in bull Taurus - true.
Bull’s horns have shape similar with crescent – true

Bull has no connection to moon…..

This is insane logic. If you don’t understand such simple associations, means you don’t have enough logic to make reverse analysis of god related allegories.
Everything that is written about gods is allegory. Nobody has never seen elephant headed man, flying bulls or resurrected people.
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 28, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 28, 2013 at 9:15 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 29, 2013 at 4:14 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 29, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 30, 2013 at 2:13 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 28, 2013 at 8:02 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 30, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 1, 2013 at 5:04 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 4, 2013 at 4:08 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 4, 2013 at 3:52 pm
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